A-Rod And Miami: What We Know

I broke the news here yesterday that representatives of the Yankees and Marlins – later identified elsewhere as New York team president Randy Levine and Miami owner Jeffrey Loria – had discussed a trade that would send the crumbling Yankee superstar Alex Rodriguez to the Marlins.

As the supplemental reporting of others indicates, this may have begun as a sarcastic response by Levine to a chimerical wish by Loria. But the ownership groups of both clubs know damn well this is no longer a joke, and they can ameliorate if not solve each other’s problem. A lot of the blockbuster transactions in baseball history have begun as jokes or expressions of exasperations (Manager Leo Durocher’s stunning move from the Brooklyn Dodgers to the New York Giants in mid-season 1948 comes to mind).

My sources have little else to add today, except to suggest that the Marlins might be willing to swap more of their overpriced stock for Rodriguez and the net differences in salary than previously indicated (say, Heath Bell and Mark Buehrle for Rodriguez and 60 million or so). That will all depend, I’m told, on just how much Miami season ticket sales drop after the disastrous 2012 season.

As to the key players, only Rodriguez is talking, saying after the Yankees’ ignominious finish in Detroit that he wanted to remain in New York and would not waive his no-trade clause.

After Yankees’ Senior Vice President/General Manager Brian Cashman had dismissed Wednesday’s report as “100% not true,” reporters Andrew Marchand and Wallace Matthews of ESPN New York and Jon Heyman of CBS then revealed the Levine-Loria conversation, and the sad fact that Cashman apparently didn’t know about it, nor the hotline it created.

Today, another embarrassed executive who was clearly out of the loop – Marlins’ president David Samson – insisted there had been no negotiations, while Heyman and others ran with the explanation that the Rodriguez talk was just a joke made last April during the Yankees’ stadium christening exhibitions at Miami and that was that.

My primary source says Marchand and Matthews have it right. It was an offhand remark that has turned into at least an avenue to discuss an anything-but-offhand trade:

What began as a casual, joking conversation between New York Yankees president Randy Levine and Miami Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria about the possibility of Alex Rodriguez playing for the Marlins may develop into serious trade talks this offseason, according to a source with knowledge of the conversation.

Others have dismissed the story because no team is talking trades while it is in the process of being humiliatingly swept out of the playoffs. Of course they don’t. But nor does planning for 2013 freeze just because 2012 games are still being played. Anybody pay attention to the weekend of Yankees’ bench coach Tony Pena? Sunday he had to manage the last three innings after Joe Girardi got ejected. Tuesday he was back in his adjunct role at Girardi’s side. In between, on Monday, he was in…Boston. To interview for the Red Sox manager’s job.

The off-season trades, free agent signings, hirings and firings – and the possible trade of Alex Rodriguez – are all starting now. Right now.

The logic behind moving Rodriguez to Miami is impeccable. Whatever damage A-Rod did not himself do to his reputation, the Yankees have – both on and off the field. They have devalued him as a player (he helped) by the extraordinary step of benching him while the team collapsed. They benched him even against Justin Verlander, against whom he could claim a career 8-for-24 mark with three homers.

They may have even baited him into insubordination. Supposedly by accident, the now imperiled-manager Joe Girardi submitted two different lineups for the rained out Wednesday night ALCS Game 4, one featuring Rodriguez, the other without him. A former major leaguer told me today he wouldn’t be a bit surprised if A-Rod hadn’t seen his name on the initial card and told Girardi where to go – which could easily have been what the Yankees wanted him to do. If you don’t buy that bit of conspiratorial sci-fi, how about weighing whether it’s more likely that for a game that could decide whether or not they kept their jobs Joe Girardi and his coaches ‘accidentally’ wrote out two line-up cards, or the Yankees decided to try to further mess with A-Rod’s head?

It is also speculative, but the Yankees (particularly through the nefarious Howard Rubinstein Public Relations Agency) have long employed the Strategic Leak, with the receiving end usually being The New York Post (for whom Rubinstein also works, in a relationship that mainlines directly to Rupert Murdoch himself). What better and more authoritative source could there be for the Casablanca-like “I’m shocked, shocked, that gambling is going on in here” quality to the Post’s splashy story that Rodriguez was trying to get the phone number of an Australian bikini model during Game 1 of the ALCS, than the Yankees themselves? Who would know she was there? Besides the principals, who would know what the ballboy saw? Who would know all of it? The Yankees. As I alluded to yesterday the autographed-ball-as-groupie-troll bait is probably attempted ten times a day in organized baseball.

But why hurt A-Rod when you’re trying to get rid of him?

Well, that’s easy. You don’t just have to find somebody willing to take him off your hands in a trade that doesn’t humiliate you. You have to convince Rodriguez to drop his no-trade clause. And nothing makes that likelier than being able to say to him ‘did you like the last two weeks? The sports pages? And the gossip pages? Would you like five years of that?’

As many columnists noted today the Yankees have no choice but to put Rodriguez in another uniform ASAP. The reason they gave him a contract through his age 42 season – the pursuit of the career home run record – is now a pointless irrelevancy. The 2009 admission of steroid use has made the ‘clean alternative’ to Barry Bonds into a pathetic joke. And, given his rate of decline and frequency of injury, Rodriguez is a less-than-even-money bet to hit the first home run milestone for which he would get one of those $6,000,000 bonuses. It’s Willie Mays’ total of 660 and Rodriguez ended the 2012 season with 647. A-Rod needs thirteen. He had thirteen as of June 26 this past season. He would hit exactly five more thereafter, in 199 regular season at bats.

You know how many homers a rate like that produces over 500 at bats? Twelve. Thirteen if you round up with a vengeance.

But more relevantly, even if Rodriguez has some sort of Jeterian renaissance ahead of him, the Yankees have spent the last week all but neutering any chance it has of blossoming in New York. They have made him – and many of the other stars – into damaged goods. Ten days ago Girardi was extolling the pricelessness of a consistent line-up. Since that moment he used seven different batting orders in seven games. In the process, he threw virtually everybody in his line-up except Jeter and Russell Martin under the bus.

The Yankees ownership can thus, with fake mournful looks plastered onto their phony faces, not pursue free agent Nick Swisher, and unload Rodriguez at any price, and sign a bunch of cheaper alternatives, because of the crisis they themselves have facilitated. For weeks they’ve been reminding me of the 1983 Philadelphia Phillies.

This is not one of the great teams of history but it was one of the most instructive. The Phils cut through the slightly-favored Dodgers in the NLCS (1-0, 1-4, 7-2, 7-2). Ever seen that Gary Matthews homer slamming off the facade of the second deck at the Vet? That sealed Game 3 and it hit about two feet below my auxiliary press box seat and it sounded like a bomb exploding.

The Phils walked into the Series as nominal favorites over the Orioles. Baltimore seemed to have a slightly better offense but Philadelphia had the pitching. Back of John Denny and Al Holland the Phils took the opener on the road 1-0. But when the Orioles took game two, Manager Paul Owens pulled a stunning move. Even though first baseman Pete Rose had gotten within shouting distance of Ty Cobb’s all time career hits record, and had gone 6-for-16 in the NLCS (5-for-9 in the last two games), Owens benched Rose, citing Rose’s 1-for-8 start in the Series, and swapped in Tony Perez against lefty starter Mike Flanagan. Perez got a weak single and looked like a statue in the field, and Owens undid his move for Game 4, but by then it was too late.

In dropping the last three games, the Phillies scored six runs and they had to blow up the franchise. They released not just Rose but Joe Morgan, too. They sold Perez back to the Reds. They offed veteran reliever Ron Reed. And in the last week of Spring Training they purged Matthews (sending him to Chicago for almost nothing, where he led the Cubs to the 1984 NL West title) and reliever Willie Hernandez (sending him to Detroit for even more almost nothing – and Hernandez won both the Cy Young and the MVP as the Tigers rolled to one of the most dominant seasons of the last 50 years).

The Phils would bubble up to the surface for a fun 1993 NL Championship (the Joe Carter World Series). But excluding that, it would be nine managers and 24 years before they would again finish first.

And the dominos all began to fall when they benched a controversial superstar who was pursuing one of the seminal records of baseball. Now why does that sound so familiar?

 

68 Comments

mlb.com comment:

posted by DickFitzwell 6 minutes ago

GAME OVER NEW YORK YANKEES.

Please insert $195,998,004 to play again.

Even for nothing, why would anyone take on Rodriguez. As you have pointed out his numbers have gone down and he has been injured a lot. Even though the Marlins could probably stand saving some money whey would they trade Buhrle. The Yankees could just let him go. Either way they are going to have to pay his salary. The Yankees are not blameless in all this. For hoping Rodriguez would hit a lot of home runs and approach a record they gave him more money than anyone else would. Too bad for them.

KO once again you show why you are this generations Murrow and why you cannot lie. I love also that you show that this story did not start with you. KO this like the otherr article on this is a real good piece and shows why you will be around for years to come. You really make me love and respect you more and more, and show how great of a journalist you are. Keep being yourself and you will always be perment on my Ipod,ipad and life, I have zero clue what prefect is and neve expect you to be, sorry you got fired at Current, again as long as you are yourself you will always have a fan in me. Love you faults and all.

a comming decade of futility? Keith, say it aint so!~

Nowthenzen
Thanks for the laugh. Again KO keep it up. You really make me proud to be a fan.

“…faults and all.”

Faults and bigger faults, actually.

BY
Again you show that you only care about bashing KO. You have not even shown that you lie, so because you cannot refute you go no spelling. Sorry but you show that you do not know what embarassing yourself is and that again is what you are doing.
Instead of going after my spelling you can learn why Koch Brothers are dangerous and than get why KO will always be this generations Murrow.

*generation’s NOT generations

BY
Again you show that you only care about bashing KO. You have not even shown that you lie, so because you cannot refute you go no spelling. Sorry but you show that you do not know what embarassing yourself is and that again is what you are doing.
Instead of going after my spelling you can learn why Koch Brothers are dangerous and than get why KO will always be this generations Murrow.

Awesome. As usual. Spot on with my opinion and then some 600% more.

*generation’s NOT generations
*other NOT otherr
*commentator NOT journalist
*permanent NOT perment
*perfect NOT prefect
*never NOT neve
* ESPN, FOX SPORTS, MSNBC, AND Current NOT just Currnet

KO once again you show why you are this generations Murrow and why you cannot lie. I love also that you show that this story did not start with you. KO this like the otherr article on this is a real good piece and shows why you will be around for years to come. You really make me love and respect you more and more, and show how great of a journalist you are. Keep being yourself and you will always be perment on my Ipod,ipad and life, I have zero clue what prefect is and neve expect you to be, sorry you got fired at Current, again as long as you are yourself you will always have a fan in me. Love you faults and all.

Wow
BY
KO is not a commentator, you show that you do not know what commentator is and what journalist is. KO sorry is a journalist, someone who not afraid to tell the truth and report news as is, which is not objective that is a journalist, so wrong on that account, yes he perment to stay, this again By has been debunked and debunked over and over again, even Carr that agrees with says that he can come back that is how made up that crap is, wow you love to show that you are a troll, ESPN he quit and than came back, MSNBC he quit two times and than came back. Fox he got fired for something that you have never heard of and that By is called truth. Keep showing how igorant you are on KO and why he is a jouranlist and why he will always be this generations Murrow.
You By do not know who Murrow is, you would be bashing him if he were alive today because you do not care about truth only about making sure that we do not hear about the corpt corpution that is dangering this country.
Sorry but this is another dishonest post from a troll that only cares about embarrasing themselves wih the fact that they have no idea what a journalist is and what a commentator is. KO is a jouranlist sorry but commentator is wrong. Keep showing that you have zero clue who KO is. All you do is embarrass yourself. I do not listen to people that want to ignore corpt courption when it comes to saying who journalist are. They show that they have no idea what journalism is and never will.

“All you do is embarrass yourself.”

Nobody could embarass themselves as much as Bathtub Boy.

Again you show that you only care about mocking spelling and lying about who KO is. Again you show that I right to call KO this generations Murrow and a journalist, do you love to show how ingorant you are on this subject. Again I do not listen to people that think that we are endanger of corporate courption when it comes to what journalism is and what truth is. People like you scare me, You need to learn about how dangers corporate courption is and the how dangers the Koch brothers are instead of bashing KO and putting out debunked lies.

It’s an insult to Murrow, a legitimate journalist who did excellent work, to be compared to a hack who can’t and doesn’t deserve to keep a job like Olbermann.

You have presented a very compelling case. I believe the Yankees have already made the decision and were just waiting for the final blow from the ALCS when they lost miserably tonight. It looked like the life was literally knocked out of them. I had thought they were pulling these stunts to spark some life back into the already comatose team by panicking the players into submission to produce. It didn’t work. No great loss of A-Rod. I hope he finds better in Miami. It suits him.
Often people repeat tried and true processes to attain the same outcome. It was an exact parallel to the Pete Rose situation. Time will tell and so will the managers and owners in their own time. I think the Yankee organization should rethink Girardi too. He hasn’t rendered any stellar performances lately either.
The thing that nudges me the most is the amount of money that is involved in the sport. Again the corporatists have infiltrated the last bastion of grass-roots, home-grown enjoyment and sucked the life out of it like they do with people. Thank you for keeping us informed of the shenanigans that go on in baseball. I’ll get back to my reading now. The book is titled ‘Ball Four’.

Bill
That is not a insult, KO is not a hack, KO does what you bill have no idea is, and that is jorunalism. I guess telling the truth about corporate coruption like Murrow does is what you consider being a hack, wow you again show that you have no idea who Murrow or KO are. Murrow Bill would have said that we needed out of Iraq and would have been calling out Bush, and you Bill would call Murrow a hack because Iraq lies should be allowed. Murrow would be talking about coupt copution and you Billy would call Murrow a hack because corporations in Bill’s world should be allowed to run Scott free, Murrow Bill would be calling out terriosim scare and Isalmphoibia that goes on in this country and Bill you would be calling Murrow a hack because we have to in Bill’s world let hate continue. So it really makes me laugh the way that people like you who love to bash and call KO names, try to come off and say that Murrow was great when he did excatly what KO does now, calling out lies and hate speech and telling the truth about what really happening in this country. Bill you again show that you have no idea who Murrow is, just like you have no idea who KO is, and do not say different because than you will just be lying and showing that you hate truth only bashing and name calling. Again I know that what people start with calling KO names that they know that KO is this generations Murrow and does not wnat to admit it, because than they have to see that they are defending lies and hate speech and showing that they do not know what journalism is. Being the first to cover Occupy Bill like Murrow did that is what journalism and brilliant journalism is. you again prove that KO is this generations Murrow and that Bill is igonrant on what journalism is and who Murrow and KO are. Keep making me love and respect KO more and more that is all you know how to do. Love you KO faults and all.

Al Gore, Keith Olbermann & Markos Moulitsas Must Retract, Apologize For Occupy Rape Cover-Up

by Lee Stranahan14 Feb 20120post a comment

We call on Current TV founders Al Gore and Joel Hyatt, Countdown host Keith Olbermann and DailyKos founder Markos Moulitsas to issue an immediate written and on-air retraction and apology for broadcasting a statement by Moulitsas that called the subject of rape and sexual assaults in the Occupy movement “made up” during the February 13 broadcast of Countdown.

Host Keith Olbermann and Current TV not only provided Moulitsas with a platform to spread this patently false statement, but did nothing to correct the misinformation given to the show’s tens of thousands of viewers.

Mr. Moulitsas’s statement and its tacit support by Olbermann, Gore and Hyatt is a slap in the face to both Current TV viewers and the dozens of men, women and children who have been the victims of sexual assault at Occupy encampments or events. The conduct of Mr. Olbermann and Mr. Moulitsas as presented by former VP Gore and Mr. Hyatt is part of a disturbing pattern of covering up rape and sexual assault in the Occupy movement.

In an exchange with Mr. Olbermann, Mr. Moulitsas said:

“This movement has gone far beyond the actual protests themselves. The message itself has taken on its own meaning. It’s sort of kind of almost broken free from the Occupy protests, so they can be as filthy and they can rape people — if you want to make stuff up —but the fact is nobody really cares about it because that message isn’t about the messenger, it’s not about who’s delivering a message, but it’s about the message itself which really resonates at a very core emotional level with people who are suffering in this economy.”

The following is a small sample of various news reports about rape and other sexual crimes during just a one-month period of the Occupy movement. These reports come from both local and national news outlets incite crimes that happened in a variety of cities.

Rapes & Various Sexual Crimes – 10/16 – 11/19 2011
•Madison, WI: 10-27-2011 — Madison Occupiers Lose Permit Due to Public Masturbation
•Cleveland: 10/18/2011 — ‘Occupy Cleveland’ Protester Alleges She Was Raped
•Seattle: 10/18/2011 — Man Accused of Exposing Self to Children Arrested
•Cleveland: 10/29/2011 — Rape Reported at Occupy Cleveland
•Dallas: 10/24/2011 — Police Investigating Possible Sexual Assault Of Teen At Occupy Dallas
•Portland: 10/16/2011 — Sex Offender Registers Occupy Portland Camp as Address
•Lawrence, KS: 10/25/2011 — Sexual Assault Reported at Occupy Camp
•Glasgow: 10/26/2011 — Woman Gang-Raped
•Manchester, NH: 10/28/2011 — Woman charged with pimping teen recruited at Occupy NH rally
•NY: 10/30/2011 — Woman Assaulted in Her tent
•NYC: 11/3/2011 — Occupier Busted In Tent Grope, Suspected In Rape
•Chula Vista, CA: 11/6/2011 — Underage Girl Missing From Occupy Protests
•Philadelphia, PA: 11/13/2011 — Occupier Arrested for Rape
•Austin, TX: 11/15/2011 — Occupier Accused of Masturbating in Front of 16 Year-old Girl
•Chicago, IL: 11/16/2011 — Occupier Arrested for Child Porn
•St. Louis, MO: 11/18/2011 — Woman Sexually Assaulted
•NYC: 11/19/2011 — Occupier Arrested for Forcibly Touching Woman\

It’s difficult to put a number on the exact number of rapes and other sexual crimes connected with the Occupy movement because there’s been a deliberate pattern of cover-up and deception by both the assailants themselves and Occupy leadership in various cities. The flat denial of rape and sexual assault as “made up” by Mr. Moulitsas continues this trend.

Here’s a short list of stories about attempts from a number of cities to cover up rapes during a two-week period in 2011.

Rape Cover Up – 10/ 18 – 10/31 2011
•New York: 10/25/2011 — Three Men Threatened to Kill 24-Year-Old Occupy Wall Street Protester for Reporting Rape
•Baltimore: 10/18/2011 — #OccupyBaltimore Discourages Sexual Assault Victims from Contacting Police
•Boston: 10/20/2011 — Occupy Boston Doesn’t Want Police Involved in Rape
•NY: 10/10/2011 — Sex, Drugs and Hiding from the Law at Wall Street Protests
•Ottawa: 10/31/2011 — #OccupyOttawa Violent & Sexual Assaults Not Reported to Police
•Portland, OR: 10/27/2011 — Sexual Assault: ‘nobody should contact the police’ — Video

It seems inconceivable that the sheer number of stories about rape and sexual assaults directly connected to Occupy somehow all escaped the attention of either Mr. Olbermann or Mr. Moulitsas. Their dismissal of these disturbing crimes and their cavalier, joking attitude towards the subject is sickening and the idea that Al Gore, the former Vice President of the United States, would allow Olbermann and Moulitsas to lie to Current TV viewers is unconscionable.

There is a possibility that Mr. Gore and Mr. Hyatt, like hundreds of millions of other Americans, simply weren’t watching Countdown and missed this journalistic atrocity. If that’s the case, we call on Hyatt and Gore to take swift action and set the record straight on the Occupy movement’s appalling history of sexual assaults.

Wow you are putting up a piece that comes from a dishonest website, sorry but all those tthings got debunked and do not put that made up crap that Lee Stratutan who showed that he loves to defend rape is, KO apologized for the remark and said that they are victims which Strautan because he loved to lie never printed, here is the debunkingYou saw the video of his mad rant against Occupy, then you saw the “list”cobbled together in far too much of a hurry to rationalize the rant, then the new video from World Net Daily of all people, showing Andy Breitbart drinking before the rant (and breaking, in cartoon fashion, his wine glass).

What you have not seen are the facts behind the transparently dishonest “list” with which Breitbart is trying to smear Occupy as rapists. Sadly, it appears his people’s efforts consisted of finding stories in which both the word “Occupy” and some report of sexual misconduct.

It doesn’t look like anybody bothered to read the links. Nearly every one of the stories shows Occupy participants were the victims and not the alleged perpetrators, or the incidents had nothing to do with Occupy.

On Countdown tonight we had – and we will continue to have – as much fun at possible with Breitbart’s on-camera meltdown in front of a group of Occupy Protestors at CPAC last weekend. The first night we mashed it up with video of Charlton Heston from “Planet Of The Apes” and Breitbart-lookalike Andrew Keir in a compelling sci-fi film called “Quatermass And The Pit.” Tonight we mixed Andy with Sam Kinison’s epic classroom rant from “Back To School.”

But however hilarious Breitbart’s self-destruction might be, the subject of rape itself is no laughing matter. The allegation that a political or cultural group condones or encourages rape and sexual assault, against anyone, is virtually as serious a charge as can be levelled. Yet nearly just as bad, is to fabricate, twist, and alter facts, to make it seem like such a charge against such a group has credence.

Mr. Breitbart and his websites have now promulgated a list of what his people boast are 17 rapes at Occupy protests between October 16th and November 19th. 17 stories and links, headlined “Rapes and Various Sexual Crimes” and all of them attributed to Occupy.

It turns out Breitbart and his people have padded this, by listing some stories twice. And in nearly every case, Breitbart’s crew has twisted nearly every one of the allegations in the stories. The idea seems to have been to make as long a list as possible, and assume that your supporters will never bother to link through to the stories, let alone follow-up to find their true outcomes.

Those who do bother will find Mr. Breitbart and his colleagues, are lying:.

Story number one: Madison, Wisconsin. Turns out this is the story of Occupy Madison losing its permit for a few days, in part because of a charge of public masturbation. No charges, no names, no evidence, and even the head of the local business association that brought the complaint, one Mary Carbine, was emphatic that the behavior was, quote, “not necessarily by the protestors themselves.” Breitbart’s people evidently never read the update at the bottom of the post.
Number two: Cleveland, refers to an alleged assault of a member of Occupy Cleveland. No arrests, and the police offer no indication the alleged assailant was a member of Occupy.

Number three: Seattle, turns out to be the arrest of a man for indecent exposure in schoolyards and other parks, not at Occupy Seattle. Detectives say they were told the suspect had been “seen” at Occupy, and again they make no claim he was associated with Occupy.

Number four: Cleveland. This is the same story as Number two. Listed twice. This time a Fox News video is linked.

Number five, Dallas. Despite the Breitbart headline: “Police Investigating Possible Sexual Assault Of Teen At Occupy Dallas,” the alleged assault victimtold police the sex in question was consensual. She would not press charges nor cooperate with authorities. The claim that there was an assault originates with one local tv station’s anonymous source in the Dallas police department.

Number six: Portland, Oregon. The registered address that a sex offender gave authorities, turned out to be the same address as the Occupy Portland camp. The police have no evidence he was ever there, nor do any witnesses place him there.

Number seven: Lawrence, Kansas. A local Police Captain Jim Martin is quoted, in the Breitbart-linked story, as saying “someone who had been at the Occupy Lawrence camp reported on Monday morning a possible sexual assault. (Martin) said he did not believe the victim or any possible suspects were members of the group.”

Number eight: Glasgow. Breitbart assigns responsibility for an assault on an Occupy protestor in Scotland to the American Occupy movement. He also does not note that the morning after the incident, Occupy organizers voluntarily disbanded the camp after police refused to provide security (at about 1:48 of the video, the Scots reporter notes the protestors have mostly left already and “put the Occupation on hold” while police investigate the crime).

Number nine: Manchester, New Hampshire. A woman operating out of her own home is arrested there after she tries to turn an Occupy protestor into a prostitute.

Number ten: New York City. An Occupy protestor is assaulted in hertent.

Number eleven: New York. It’s the same story as Number ten. He has again listed one twice. Incidentally, despite the November reports claiming the Occupy food tent worker would shortly be charged with something besides sexual abuse, there are no stories on the net indicating this has yet occurred.

Number twelve: Chula Vista CA. On November 6th, a woman posts on the Occupy Los Angeles facebook page, asking Occupy to help locate her daughter, 16-year old Ashley Springer. The last the woman knew, Ashley Springer was at Occupy-LA. Breitbart does not note that, according to good news from “The Vanishing Kids Coalition,” by December 9th, Ashley Springer was home, safe, sound, and unharmed.

Number thirteen: Philadelphia. Though the Breitbart list blares “Occupier Arrested for Rape,” the actual newspaper headline says the opposite: “Man arrested in Occupy Philly sexual assault.” The alleged victim was a member of Occupy,not the assailant,even though Breitbart implies it was the other way around.

Number fourteen: Austin, Texas. A man in a sleeping bag near the Occupy encampment in a public square is arrested for allegedly masturbating in front of a 16-year old. Again, despite the Breitbart headline “Occupier Accused of Masturbating in Front of 16 Year-old Girl,” in theactual article police do not conclude that either victim or perpetrator was involved with Occupy.

Number fifteen: Chicago. A 21-year old man named Robert Reitz whom Occupy Chicago confirmedhad attended some of its events, is arrested at his home, on child porn charges. Breitbart does not bother to note that in the second half of the very story he linked to, Occupy Chicago responded to the arrest by immediately banning him from its encampment.

Number sixteen: St. Louis. Again, the victim in an assault isidentified as a member of Occupy, not the alleged perpetrator. As an aside, in the “list,” Breitbart’s people link not to an actual news account, but only to the notorious fraud Dana Loesch’s version in which the truth has been carefully expunged.

Number seventeen: New York. Again, the victim in a fondling case is a member of Occupy; policeidentify the assailant as a local homeless person.

So. Seventeen stories Breitbart claims are cases of Rape at Occupy. Just reading the stories, googling the names of those identified, following up – this only took me about 70 minutes. The final result:
– Two stories on the list were duplicates.
– One story turns out to have been about consensual sex.
– One case, in Scotland, led the Occupy group to disband for the sake of safety.
– One case of an arrest for child porn, with Occupy immediately banning the alleged perpetrator.
– One case of a girl disappearing — ignoring the fact that she was home and unharmed a month later.
– Four cases in which police said neither the victim nor the assailant were apparently even associated with Occupy.

That leaves seven others stories, all of which show police identifying Occupy participants as the victims, six of which show police identifying the alleged assailants as not being Occupy participants.

That is the evidence that Andrew Breitbart has submitted to rationalize his irrational attempt to smear the Occupy movement and Occupy members, as rapists, and to brand anybody who points out his dishonesty, his twisting of the facts, and who bothers to actually read the stories that disprove his own contention, as a rape denier or rape apologist. What Mr. Breitbart and his fellow propagandists have done, in fact, is to take at least eight women, eight members of Occupy, who were raped or otherwise assaulted, and blamed them.

But he is not just perpetrating the classic fabrication con of the dishonest man for whom facts are malleable and can be ignored when they are inconvenient. More importantly, Breitbart is exploiting rape victims, blaming rape victims. And no woman, no man – conservative, liberal, or indifferent – can abide this despicable attempt to take individual human suffering, and by lying at the top of his voice, try to score cheap political points. Wow and again do not put thier other stuff because Lee never refuted what KO said, so you are showing that you love to defend rape and want to defend people that love to exploit rape vicitims because they could not stand that Occupy is a movement that trying to fight corporate courption. Sorry again you put something that has been refuted and that Strautan cannot refute, he also thinks that because KO talked about and here is another that shows that again you put up a debunked story, After DailyKos founder Markos Moulitsas appeared on Olbermann’s show on Tuesday and accused Breitbart of “mak[ing] stuff up,” Lee Stranahan of Big Journalism demanded an on-air retraction and apology. He cited a list of 17 news stories of rape and other sexual crimes at “Occupy” protests.

But Olbermann said that list include some stories twice and could not be attributed to the “Occupy Wall Street” movement. In four of the stories, he noted, neither the victim nor the assailant were even associated with the protest. In seven other stories, the protesters were the victims, not the assailants.

“That is the evidence that Andrew Breitbart has submitted to rationalize his irrational attempt to smear the Occupy movement and Occupy members, as rapists, and to brand anybody who points out his dishonesty, his twisting of the facts, and who bothers to actually read the stories that disprove his own contention, as a rape denier or rape apologist,” Olbermann said.

“What Mr. Breitbart and his fellow propagandists have done, in fact, is to take at least eight women, eight members of Occupy, who were raped or otherwise assaulted, and blamed them.”

Raw Story (http://s.tt/1euKy), you really have zero clue what hate speech is. This was something that was made up by people that hated Occupy, Brenbrait and Struatan are know hatemogers and liers. Stautan does not get that KO has admited that Occupy was a vicitm of rape and even showed that rapes happened so how could he have a cover up, that is how made up that story is.
By thanks for showing that you think it okay for people like Struatan to make fun of rape. You really show that you like to defend hate speech and that KO unlike you likes to call out rapists.
Again you show why KO is this generations Murrow. Breibart is not a legit source, you really do show how igorant you are on KO, you show here how tolerant KO is to women. Thanks again for showing why KO is this generations Murrow. You really love to put up debunked stories, and again Strautan is lying when he said that he refuted he never did. Also Occupy was fighting again rape here is part of the letter New York, November 4, 2011: We are writing this statement to inform our fellow occupiers about an incident of sexual assault at Occupy Wall Street (OWS) and the response to it. We are also writing this statement to respond to media accounts that blame the survivor, and that attempt to use this horrific incident to attack OWS. We write this statement as supporters of OWS, as fellow survivors, and as allies.

On the morning of October 29, a woman participating in OWS was sexually assaulted at Liberty Plaza. The person who she identified as having assaulted her was arrested on November 1 for a previous assault. He has since been released on bail.

On the morning of the assault, the survivor was accompanied to the hospital by a group of women from OWS, including a social worker, to support her and act as advocates. From the moment the incident was discovered to the present time, the survivor has been surrounded by a network of allies and trained advocates offering resources to provide emotional, medical, and legal support. At every step of the process, and in line with the core principles of survivor support, her wishes as to how she wanted to proceed have been honored, and information from a range of sources has been provided to her about her options. The survivor knew immediately that she wanted to make sure that the person who assaulted her did not harm anyone else at OWS. Community members honored this demand by asking that this person stay off site, and, when he refused, monitored his activity, ejected him from the space and escorted him to police custody.

These efforts provided the survivor with the time and space to carefully review the options available to her. Following two days of discussion with family, friends, supporters, and anti-violence advocates, the survivor decided to make a report to the police and to push for a criminal investigation and prosecution. Supporters from OWS accompanied her to the police station, and will continue to support her throughout the legal process.

We have been saddened and angered to observe some members of the media and the public blame the survivor for the assault. A survivor is never at fault. It is unacceptable to criticize a survivor for the course of action they chose to take or their community for supporting them in that choice. Additionally, we were troubled at the time of her report that responding police officers appeared to be more concerned by her political involvement in OWS than her need for assistance after a traumatic incident of sexual violence. A survivor is not at fault for being assaulted while peacefully participating in a public protest to express their political opinions. We are aware that this is one of several known cases of sexual assault that have occurred at OWS. We are dismayed by these appalling acts and distressed by the fear among many Occupiers that they have caused, as well as their negative impact on our ability to safely participate in public protests. We have the right to participate in peaceful protests without fear of violence.

We are also concerned that segments of the media have attempted to use this incident as another way to disingenuously attack and discredit OWS. It is reprehensible to manipulate and capitalize on a tragedy like this to discredit a peaceful political movement. OWS exists within a broader culture where sexual assault is egregiously common: someone in the US is sexually assaulted every 2 minutes, most assaults are never reported, and most rapists are never held to account.¹ We live in a culture of violence in which sexual assault is often ignored, condoned, excused and even encouraged. We note that it is particularly difficult for survivors of assault at OWS to feel confident in reporting crimes to the NYPD – the NYPD’s unjustifiably aggressive and abusive policing of OWS has undermined trust in the police force amongst protesters.

As individuals and as a community, we have the responsibility and the
So KO showed that he hates rape and calls it out, and Strautan shows that he loves to expolit vicitms, also uncredible sites are the ones that are saying that. You again show how ingorant you are. Do you By love to defend hate speech, and people like Struatan that expolit rape, wow you really are pathic. Thanks for making me love and respect KO more. Sorry and another debunked story. You really show that you have no idea what truth means.

“Instead of going after my spelling you can learn why Koch Brothers are dangerous…”

Not nearly as dangerous as Soros.

The REAL George Soros: An evil, despicable excuse for a human being. No wonder the libs love the POS
by Bob in Breckenridge ( 116 Comments › )
Filed under Anti-semitism, Barack Obama, Communism, Crime, Democratic Party, History, Holocaust, Judaism, Marxism, Nazism, Progressives, Religion, Socialism, World War II at February 20th, 2012 – 5:00 pm

While about 500,000 of his fellow countrymen, women and children, almost all of them Hungarian Jews, were being exterminated by Nazi Germany, this POS Soros, a Jew himself, called it “the happiest time of my life”.

Soros collaborated with the Nazis rounding up the Jews to send to the extermination camps, and confiscating their property and belongings, and said he had “no sense of guilt” about what he did, and found it “exhilarating”, and liked the feeling of “absolute power”.

While some might try to excuse what Soros did by saying “well, he (Soros) was only fourteen at the time”, keep in mind that there were thousands of teenagers who were actively fighting the Nazis through resistance movements in all of the Nazi-occupied countries in Europe.

Who Is George Soros? George Soros is an evil man. He’s anti-God, anti-family, anti-American, and anti-good. Soros is a multi-billionaire atheist, with skewed moral values, and a sociopath’s lack of conscience. He considers himself to be an elitist World class philosopher, despises the American way, and just loves to do social engineering and change cultures.

By his (Soro’s) own admission, he helped engineer coups in Slovakia, Croatia, Georgia, and Yugoslavia. When Soros targets a country for “regime change,” he begins by creating a shadow government, a fully formed government-in-exile, ready to assume power when the opportunity arises. The Shadow Party he has built in America greatly resembles those he has created in other countries prior to instigating a coup.

György Schwartz, better known to the world as George Soros, was born August 12, 1930 in Hungary. Soros’s father, Tivadar, was a fervent practitioner of the Esperanto language invented in 1887, and designed to be the first global language, free of any national identity. The Schwartz’s, who were non-practicing Jews, changed the family name to Soros, in order to facilitate assimilation into the Gentile population, as the Nazis spread into Hungary during the 1930′s.

When Hitler’s henchman Adolf Eichmann arrived in Hungary, to oversee the murder of that country’s Jews, George Soros ended up with a man whose job was confiscating property from the Jewish population.

70% of Soros’s fellow Jews in Hungary, nearly a half-million human beings, were annihilated in that year, yet he gives no sign that this put “any damper on his elation, either at the time or indeed in retrospect”.

During an interview with “60 Minutes” reporter Steve Kroft, Soros was asked about his “happiest year”:

KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson.

SOROS: Yes. Yes.

KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from your fellow Jews, friends and neighbors.

SOROS: Yes. That’s right. Yes.

KROFT: I mean, that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many, years. Was it difficult?

SOROS: No, not at all. Not at all, I rather enjoyed it.

KROFT: No feelings of guilt?

SOROS: No, only feelings of absolute power.

Those last eight chilling lines tell us all we need to know about Soros, and more importantly, anyone who would want to associate with this despicable scumbag, who should have been charged with committing war crimes, IMO.

This is very interesting material. Glenn Beck has been developing material to show all the ties that Soros has through the nation and world along with his goals. It begins to piece together the rise of Obama and his behavior in leading the nation along with many members of Congress (in particular the Democrats, such as the election of Pelosi as the minority leader in Congress).

The following was written by Glenn Beck

If you have wondered where Obama came from and just how he quickly moved from obscurity to President, or why the media is “selective” in what we are told, here is the man who most probably put him there and is responsible. He controls President Obama’s every move. Think this is absurd? Invest a few minutes and read this.. You won’t regret it.

Who is Obama? Obama is a puppet and here is the explanation of the man or demon that pulls his strings. It’s not by chance that Obama can manipulate the world. I don’t think he knows how to tie his shoe laces. After reading this and Obama’s reluctance to accept help on the oil spill you wonder if the spill is part of the plan to destroy the US? “In history, nothing happens by accident. If it happened, you can bet someone planned it.”- Franklin Delano Roosevelt

Who Is George Soros? He brought the market down in 2 days. Here is what CBS’ Mr. Steve Kroft’s research has turned up. It’s a bit of a read, and it took 4 months to put it together. “The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States . “George Soros”

Soros has admitted to having carried some rather “potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood, which I felt I had to control, otherwise they might get me in trouble.” Be that as it may. After WWII, Soros attended the London School of Economics, where he fell under the thrall of fellow atheist and Hungarian, Karl Popper, one of his professors. Popper was a mentor to Soros until Popper’s death in 1994. Two of Popper’s most influential teachings concerned “the open society,” and Fallibilism.

Fallibilism is the philosophical doctrine that all claims of knowledge could, in principle, be mistaken. (Then again, I could be wrong about that.) The “open society” basically refers to a “test and evaluate” approach to social engineering. Regarding “open society” Roy Childs writes, “Since the Second World War, most of the Western democracies have followed Popper’s advice about piecemeal social engineering and democratic social reform, and it has gotten them into a grand mess.”

In 1956 Soros moved to New York City, where he worked on Wall Street, and started amassing his fortune. He specialized in hedge funds and currency speculation. Soros is absolutely ruthless, amoral, and clever in his business dealings, and quickly made his fortune. By the 1980s, he was well on his way to becoming the global powerhouse that he is today.

In an article Kyle-Anne Shiver wrote for “The American Thinker” she says, “Soros made his first billion in 1992 by shorting the British pound with leveraged billions in financial bets, and became known as the man who broke the Bank of England . He broke it on the backs of hard-working British citizens who immediately saw their homes severely devalued and their life savings cut drastically, almost overnight.”

In 1994 Soros crowed in “The New Republic”, that “the former Soviet Empire is now called the Soros Empire.” The Russia-gate scandal in 1999, which almost collapsed the Russian economy, was labeled by Rep. Jim Leach, then head of the House Banking Committee, to be “one of the greatest social robberies in human history. “The “Soros Empire” indeed. In 1997 Soros almost destroyed the economies of Thailand and Malaysia . At the time, Malaysia ‘s Prime Minister, Mahathir Mohammad, called Soros “a villain, and a moron.” Thai activist Weng Tojirakarn said, “We regard George Soros as a kind of Dracula. He sucks the blood from the people.”

The website Greek National Pride reports, “Soros was part of the full court press that dismantled Yugoslavia and caused trouble in Georgia , Ukraine and Myanmar [Burma]. Calling himself a pilanthropist, Soros’ role is to tighten the ideological stranglehold of globalization and the New
World Order while promoting his own financial gain. He is without conscience; a capitalist who functions with absolute amorality.”

France has upheld an earlier conviction against Soros, for felony insider trading. Soros was fined 2.9 million dollars. Recently, his native Hungary fined Soros 2.2 million dollars for “illegal market manipulation.” Elizabeth Crum writes that the Hungarian economy has been in a state of transition as the country seeks to become more financially stable and westernized. Soros deliberately driving down the share price of its largest bank put Hungary’s economy into a wicked tailspin, one from which it is still trying to recover.

Soros is a planetary parasite. His grasp, greed, and gluttony have a global reach. But what about America? Soros told Australia ‘s national newspaper “The Australian.” ” America, as the centre of the globalised financial markets, was sucking up the savings of the world. This is now over. The game is out,” he said, adding that the time has come for “a very serious adjustment” in American’s consumption habits. He implied that he was the one with the power to bring this about.”

Soros: “World financial crisis was “stimulating” and “in a way, the culmination of my life’s work.”

Obama has recently promised 10 billion of our tax dollars to Brazil , in order to give them a leg-up in expanding their offshore oil fields. Obama’s largesse towards Brazil came shortly after his political financial backer, George Soros, invested heavily in Brazilian oil (Pet rob ras).

Tait Trussel writes, “The Pet rob ras loan may be a windfall for Soros and Brazil , but it is a bad deal for the U. S. The American Petroleum Institute estimates that oil exploration in the U S could create 160,000 new, well-paying jobs, as well as $1.7 trillion in revenues to federal, state, and local governments, all while fostering greater energy security and independence.”

A blog you might want to keep an eye on is SorosWatch.com. Their mission: “This blog is dedicated to all who have suffered due to the ruthless financial pursuits of George Soros. Your stories are many and varied, but the theme is the same: the destructive power of greed without conscience. We pledge to tirelessly watch Soros wherever he goes and to print the truth in the hope that he will one day be made to stop preying upon the world’s poor, that justice will be served.”

Back to America. Soros has been actively working to destroy America from the inside out for some years now. People have been warning us. Two years ago, news sources reported that “Soros [is] an extremist who wants open borders, a one-world foreign policy, legalized drugs, euthanasia, and on and on. This is off-the-chart dangerous.”In 1997, Rachel Ehrenfeld wrote, “Soros uses his philanthropy to change or more accurately deconstruct the moral values and attitudes of the Western world, and particularly of the American people. His “open society” is not about freedom; it is about license. His vision rejects the notion of ordered liberty, in favor of a PROGRESSIVE ideology of rights and entitlements.”

Perhaps the most important of these “whistle blowers” are David Horowitz and Richard Poe. Their book “The Shadow Party” outlines in detail how Soros hijacked the Democratic Party, and now owns it lock, stock, and barrel. Soros has been packing the Democratic Party with radicals, and ousting moderate Democrats for years. The Shadow Party became the Shadow Government, which recently became the Obama Administration.

DiscoverTheNetworks.org (another good source) writes, “By his [Soros'] own admission, he helped engineer coups in Slovakia, Croatia, Georgia, and Yugoslavia. When Soros targets a country for “regime change,” he begins by creating a shadow government, a fully formed government-in-exile, ready to assume power when the opportunity arises. The Shadow Party he has built in America greatly resembles those he has created in other countries prior to instigating a coup.”

November 2008 edition of the German magazine “Der Spiegel,” in which Soros gives his opinion on what the next POTUS (President of the U. S.) should do after taking office. “I think we need a large stimulus package.” Soros thought that around 600 billion would be about right. Soros also said that “I think Obama presents us a great opportunity to finally deal with global warming and energy dependence. The U. S.. needs a cap and trade system with auctioning of licenses for emissions rights.”

Although Soros doesn’t (yet) own the Republican Party, like he does the Democrats, make no mistake, his tentacles are spread throughout the Republican Party as well.

Soros is a partner in the Carlyle Group where he has invested more than 100 million dollars. According to an article by “The Baltimore Chronicle’s” Alice Cherbonnier, the Carlye Group is run by “a veritable who’s who of former Republican leaders,” from CIA man Frank Carlucci, to CIA head and ex-President George Bush, Sr.

In late 2006, Soros bought about 2 million shares of Halliburton, Dick Cheney’s old stomping grounds. When the Democrats and Republicans held their conventions in 2000, Soros held Shadow Party conventions in the same cities, at the same time. In 2008, Soros donated $5,000,000,000 ( that’s Five Billion ) to the Democratic National Committee, NC, to insure Obama’s win and wins for many other Alinsky trained Radical Rules Anti-American Socialist. George has been contributing a $ billion plus to the DNC since Clinton came on the scene.

Soros has dirtied both sides of the aisle, trust me. And if that weren’t bad enough, he has long held connections with the CIA. And I mustn’t forget to mention Soros’ involvement with the MSM (Main Stream Media), the entertainment industry (e. g. he owns 2.6 million shares of Time Warner), and the various political advertising organizations he funnels millions to. In short, George Soros controls or influences most of the MSM. Little wonder they ignore the TEA PARTY, Soro’s NEMESIS.

As Matthew Vadum writes, “The liberal billionaire-turned-philanthropist has been buying up media properties for years in order to drive home his message to the American public that they are too materialistic, too wasteful, too selfish, and too stupid to decide for themselves how to run their own lives.”

Richard Poe writes, “Soros’ private philanthropy, totaling nearly $5 billion, continues undermining America ‘s traditional Western values. His giving has provided funding of abortion rights, atheism, drug legalization, sex education, euthanasia, feminism, gun control, globalization, mass immigration, gay marriage and other radical experiments in social engineering.”

Some of the many NGOs (Non-Government Organizations) that Soros funds with his billions are: MoveOn.org, the Apollo Alliance, Media Matters for America, the Tides Foundation, the ACLU, ACORN, PDIA (Project on Death In America), La Raza, and many more. For a more complete list, with brief descriptions of the NGOs, go to DiscoverTheNetworks.org.

Poe continues, “Through his global web of Open Society Institutes and Open Society Foundations, Soros has spent 25 years recruiting, training, indoctrinating and installing a network of loyal operatives in 50 countries, placing them in positions of influence and power in media, government, finance and academia.”

Without Soros’ money, would the Saul Alinsky’s Chicago machine still be rolling? Would SEIU, ACORN, and La Raza still be pursuing their nefarious activities? Would Big Money and lobbyists still be corrupting government? Would our college campuses still be retirement homes for 1960s radicals?

America stands at the brink of an abyss, and that fact is directly attributable to Soros. Soros has vigorously, cleverly, and insidiously planned the ruination of America and his puppet, Barack Obama is leading the way.

The words of Patrick Henry are apropos: “Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!”

Wow you again show that you do not know what hate is and what a hatemonger is, this guy as zero crediblity, he says that Jimmy Carter is ant-sematic because he defended the Palistines, excuse me that is how made up his posts are. Also this has been debunked Columnist claimed Soros “collaborated with the Nazis” to survive Holocaust. In a September 5 Toronto Sun column (accessed via Nexis), Ezra Levant wrote of Soros:

When the Nazis took total control of Hungary in 1944, the Holocaust followed. In two months, 440,000 Hungarian Jews were deported to death camps.

To survive, George, then a teenager, collaborated with the Nazis.

First he worked for the Judenrat. That was the Jewish council set up by the Nazis to do their dirty work for them. Instead of the Nazis rounding up Jews every day for the trains, they delegated that murderous task to Jews who were willing to do it to survive another day at the expense of their neighbours.

Theodore hatched a better plan for his son. He bribed a non-Jewish official at the agriculture ministry to let George live with him. George helped the official confiscate property from Jews.

By collaborating with the Nazis, George survived the Holocaust. He turned on other Jews to spare himself.

Levant distorted the conduct of Soros, who was 14 years old at the time. As Media Matters has noted, Soros, who discussed his childhood in Nazi-occupied Hungary in a 1998 interview on CBS’ 60 Minutes, was only a young teen during the Holocaust and was under the care of a Hungarian Agriculture Ministry employee, posing as his godson. On 60 Minutes, Soros said that he accompanied his “godfather” as he went to oversee the confiscation of property from Hungarian Jews.

As biographer Michael Kaufman wrote in Soros: The Life and Times of a Messianic Billionaire (page 37):

This is what actually happened. Shortly after George went to live with Baumbach, the man was assigned to take inventory on the vast estate of Mor Kornfeld, an extremely wealthy aristocrat of Jewish origin. The Kornfeld family had the wealth, wisdom, and connections to be able to leave some of its belongings behind in exchange for permission to make their way to Lisbon. Baumbach was ordered to go to the Kornfeld estate and inventory the artworks, furnishings, and other property. Rather than leave his “godson” behind in Budapest for three days, he took the boy with him. As Baumbach itemized the material, George walked around the grounds and spent time with Kornfeld’s staff. It was his first visit to such a mansion, and the first time he rode a horse. He collaborated with no one and he paid attention to what he understood to be his primary responsibility: making sure that no one doubted that he was Sandor Kiss.

Sun issues correction, apologizes to Soros. In a September 18 correction, the Toronto Sun, Sun Media, and Levant retracted the false Nazi collaborator claim and apologized:

On September 5, 2010, a column by Ezra Levant contained false statements about George Soros and his conduct as a young teenager in Nazi-occupied Hungary.

Upon receiving a letter of complaint from Mr. Soros’s legal counsel on September 13, 2010, Sun Media Corporation always intended to publish a retraction and apology for this column. Despite constant efforts on both sides, Sun Media and Mr. Soros’s counsel were unable to reach agreement on the content of a retraction.

The management of Sun Media wishes to state that there is no basis for the statements in the column and they should not have been made.

Sun Media, this newspaper and Ezra Levant retract the statements made in the column and unreservedly apologize to Mr. Soros for the distress and harm this column may have caused to him. It was also debunked here COULTER: And the other thing, I wanted to say about what you were saying – this obsession with is Russia our leader? Is Russia our leader? I finally figured out why that bugs me so much. Right-wing and conservative power has always bubbled up from the bottom.

You – Rush Limbaugh came out of a strong legal family. He goes on radio. He gets fired. He gets fired. He gets fired. Free Republic. Just some guy out in California. Joe the plumber – it’s always been bottom up.

BECK: Sure.

COULTER: Not with the Democrats. Oh, no. They have a Nazi collaborator, literally, international financier George Soros funding their phony grassroots organizations. So they look at Rush and say, “Who is funding you?” Well, Rush Limbaugh is funding Rush Limbaugh.

Coulter: Soros “did well under the Nazis.” From the March 26, 2009, edition of Fox News’ Hannity:

COULTER: I don’t think George Soros’ name should come out without pointing out that this is not the first crisis he’s done well in. He collaborated with the Nazis in Hungary, as he admitted, so he did well under the Nazis.

Human Events Online: “A Nazi collaborator.” From a March 10, 2009, Human Events Online column:

Soros is a behind-the-scenes despot. He is an evil man who has used his wealth to further all the causes the Democrat Party holds dear.

He was also a Nazi collaborator. In his autobiography, entitled “Soros on Soros,” he blithely describes how as a teenager he helped cart off the possessions of Hungarian Jews after they were sent to concentration camps. Soros wrote that this never bothered him, even though his father was Jewish and he grew up in a Jewish home. He says he has no regrets for his actions. “Somebody would have done it,” he wrote.

Investor’s Business Daily: Soros a “former Nazi sympathizer.” From a March 11, 2009, Investor’s Business Daily editorial (accessed via Nexis):

If, as White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel says, Rush Limbaugh “is the voice and the intellectual force and energy behind the Republican Party,” it is only fair to ask: Who is his Democratic counterpart?

Our nominee is George Soros, the Hungarian billionaire and former Nazi sympathizer who helped fund MoveOn.org, the radical group that smeared Gen. David Petraeus with its “General Betray Us” ad last fall.

Through his Open Society Initiative and personal contributions Soros has funded many liberal causes and many Democratic candidates with the intent of undermining democracy and capitalism. His ultimate goal is to create a global socialist collective where we hand over our money and/or freedom and sing “Kumbaya.”

For our part, we’ll take Rush over Soros.

KSFO radio hosts: Soros “very cheerfully and willingly, went to work for the Nazis.” From the February 8, 2007, broadcast of KSFO’s Morning Show:

LEE RODGERS: Now, here is the inconsistency problem that Mr. Soros, like so many Democrats, displays. Given his personal history, a cynical person might think George Soros would be delighted to see the Nazis in charge, because in 1944, when the Germans invaded his native country, Hungary, and took over, Mr. Soros hid the fact that he’s a Jew — you can’t really blame him for that –

OFFICER VIC: No.

RODGERS: — it’s about survival; a lot of people did it. But then, he, apparently very cheerfully and willingly, went to work for the Nazis, as other Jews were being killed or shipped off to the death camps, he ran around Hungary with Nazi officials, serving eviction notices to people who were going to be shipped out on the death trains –

OFFICER VIC: Oh, my God.

RODGERS: — so his Nazi buddies could come in and confiscate their property. Now, if you doubt this — any of you whiny liberals — “Well, I heard that on a conservative program. They had to have made it up” — just do a little Internet search of your own, go to Yahoo or Google or whatever you want, and write in “George Soros,” plus the word “Nazis,” plus “1944.” Take a look. See what comes up. See for yourself.

KSFO apologized for “not accurate” attacks on Soros. On February 26, 2007, KSFO’s program director issued a correction to the Morning Show hosts’ smears of Soros, saying that their comments were “not accurate” and that the station “regrets that they were broadcast.” and KO even called out Beck on this lie, wow the ADL got on someone case for it For a political commentator or entertainer to have the audacity to say—inaccurately—that there’s a Jewish boy sending Jews to death camps, as part of a broader assault on Mr. Soros, that’s horrific.
While I, too, may disagree with many of Soros’ views and analysis on the issues, to bring in this kind of innuendo about his past is unacceptable. To hold a young boy responsible for what was going on around him during the Holocaust as part of a larger effort to denigrate the man is repugnant.
The Holocaust was a horrific time, and many people had to make excruciating choices to ensure their survival. George Soros has been forthright about his childhood experiences and his family’s history, and there the matter should rest. Here is another Fox news commentator Glenn Beck may have thought he had an easy target in the controversial financier George Soros – but he didn’t reckon with Jews who care about Holocaust remembrance and don’t take kindly to reckless charges being thrown into the political maelstrom.
“It’s totally over the top,” said Anti-Defamation League director Abraham Foxman about Beck’s latest outburst.
What Beck said: Soros, a child in Hungary who survived by living with a non-Jewish family, “used to go around with this anti-Semite and deliver papers to the Jews and confiscate their property and then ship them off. And George Soros was part of it. He would help confiscate the stuff. It was frightening. Here’s a Jewish boy helping send the Jews to the death camps. And I am certainly not saying that George Soros enjoyed that, even had a choice. I mean, he’s 14 years old. He was surviving. So I’m not making a judgment. That’s between him and God. As a 14-year-old boy, I don’t know what you would do. I don’t know what you would do. But you would think that there would be some remorse as an 80-year-old man or a 40-year-old man or a 20-year-old man, when it was all over, you would do some soul searching and say, ‘What did I do? What did I do?’”
Soros, Beck went on, “is not a fan of the state of Israel. George Soros is — many people would call him an anti-Semite. I will not. I don’t know enough about all of his positions on Jews. I know his mother, in George Soros’s own words, his mother was an anti-Semite. And so he just has this weird, weird world view. He’s also an atheist.”
Beck said he wasn’t judging Soros – but that’s sure what it sounded like to a lot of listeners.
The ADL’s Abe Foxman is also a child survivor who lived only because his parents turned him over to his Catholic nanny.
“Look, I spit on Jews when I was six years old,” Foxman told me. “Does that make me an anti-Semite?”
The issue of the Shoah “is so sensitive that I’m not even sure Holocaust survivors themselves are willing to make such judgments,” Foxman went on “For a political commentator or entertainer to have the audacity to say, there’s a Jewish boy sending Jews to death camps, that’s horrific. It’s totally off limits and over the top.”
Beck’s comments “were either out of total ignorance or total insensitivity,” he said.
Elan Steinberg, vice president of the The American Gathering of Jewish Holocaust Survivors and Their Descendants, called the Beck accusations “monstrous; you don’t make such accusations without proof, and I have seen no such proof.”
Beck’s charges, he said, “go to the heart of the instrumentalization and trivialization of the Holocaust.”
Simon Greer, president of the Jewish Funds for Justice, met with Fox News executives in July to discuss Beck’s “constant and often inappropriate invocation of the Holocaust and Nazi Germany on the air.”
Greer and Rabbi Steve Gutow of the Jewish Council for Public Affairs (JCPA) received a handwritten note from Beck saying “Please know that I understand the sensitivity and sacred nature of this dark chapter in Human History. Thank you for your candor and helpful thoughts.”
Yesterday’s on-air comments by Beck “made a mockery of their professed understanding,” Greer said in a statement. “In an effort to demonize a political opponent, Beck and Fox News scurrilously attacked George Soros, a prominent Jewish philanthropist and Holocaust survivor. No one who truly understands ‘the sensitivity and sacred nature’ of the Holocaust would deliberately and grotesquely mis-characterize the experience of a 13 year old Jew in Nazi-occupied Hungary whose father hid him with a non-Jewish family to keep him alive.”
Interfaith Alliance President Rev. Dr. C. Welton Gaddy said Beck’s “use of the Holocaust to discredit George Soros is beyond repugnant. The Holocaust is one of history’s most tragic events and those who survived it are owed our enduring respect.”
Why is Soros important to the far right?
Could it be because he is a major contributor to Democratic causes, and because they are trying to make his money radioactive to their political adversaries? Again this gets debunked again Today on his Fox News program, Glenn Beck again falsely accused Jewish philanthropist George Soros of being a Holocaust collaborator. Beck used this false attack to buttress his Soros conspiracies, suggesting that “the lesson he learned” from his supposed actions are what informs the shadowy tactics he is supposedly using to destroy the U.S. currency and government:

I’m going to concentrate on the fact that I think the lesson he learned in that horrific year of 1944 is if you hide your true identity you can gain power, you can survive. And those who are seen as disadvantaged or handicapped and don’t hide their identity, well, they don’t survive.

On Tuesday, during the first part of his three-day Fox News attack on Soros, Beck falsely suggested that Soros was a Holocaust collaborator, and that Soros felt no guilt about it. Yesterday on his radio show, Beck went so far as to suggest that Soros helped “send the Jews” to “death camps” during the Holocaust.

These attacks led to widespread condemnation from prominent Jewish leaders and Holocaust survivors. Anti-Defamation League national director Abraham H. Foxman called the comments “completely inappropriate, offensive and over the top,” as well as “unacceptable” and “horrific.” Elan Steinberg, vice president of the the American Gathering of Jewish Holocaust Survivors and Their Descendants, called the Beck accusations “monstrous.” And Simon Greer, president of the Jewish Funds for Justice, said that Beck had “deliberately and grotesquely mischaracterize[d]” Soros’ experience and engaged in “a form of Holocaust revisionism.”

But today, in a live Fox broadcast wrapping up his Soros attacks, Beck returned to the attack. He said that Soros had “to go and confiscate the property of your fellow Jews” during the Holocaust, and while he said that “I am not blaming or questioning a 14-year-old or his parents for trying to keep him alive trying to keep the family alive,” he nonetheless attacked Soros because he “has never once said he regretted it.” Beck went on to question how Soros’ experiences “affected his feelings on Israel, which he does not support.”

In fact, as we’ve repeatedly documented, Soros has said that he felt no guilt about his actions because he “had no role in taking away that property.”

From Soros’ interview with Steve Kroft, aired on the December 20, 1998 edition of 60 Minutes:

KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson.

Mr. SOROS: Yes. Yes.

KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.

Mr. SOROS: Yes. That’s right. Yes.

KROFT: I mean, that’s–that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?

Mr. SOROS: Not–not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don’t–you don’t see the connection. But it was–it created no–no problem at all.

KROFT: No feeling of guilt?

Mr. SOROS: No.

KROFT: For example that, ‘I’m Jewish and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be there. I should be there.’ None of that?

Mr. SOROS: Well, of course I c–I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn’t be there, because that was–well, actually, in a funny way, it’s just like in markets–that if I weren’t there–of course, I wasn’t doing it, but somebody else would–would–would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the–whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the–I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.

In Soros: The Life and Times of a Messianic Billionaire, Michael T. Kaufman detailed Soros’s reaction during the interview, as well as Soros’ actions in Nazi-occupied Hungary, noting that Soros “collaborated with no one”:

While he was living with Baumbach as Sandor Kiss, an event occurred that more than a half a century later would become the basis of charges that George Soros, the international financier and billionaire, had somehow collaborated with the Nazi occupiers of his homeland and had exploited his fellow Jews. The issue was raised in a bizarre television profile and interview of Soros aired on the CBS television program 60 Minutes in December of 1998. In the segment, Steve Kroft, the interviewer, noted with prosecutorial gusto that George’s father had “bribed a government official to swear that you were his godson,” and added that this survival strategy “carried a heavy price tag.” For, he continued, “as hundreds of thousands of Jews were being shipped off to the Nazi death camps, a thirteen-year-old George Soros accompanied his phony godfather on his rounds, confiscating property from the Jews.” Visibly dumbfounded by the line of questioning, Soros could only manage to say that he had no role in the seizure of property and was merely a spectator. To underscore Kroft’s point, film footage showed masses of Hungarian Jews being led away at gunpoint.

This is what actually happened. Shortly after George went to live with Baumbach, the man was assigned to take inventory on the vast estate of Mor Kornfeld, an extremely wealthy aristocrat of Jewish origin. The Kornfeld family had the wealth, wisdom, and connections to be able to leave some of its belongings behind in exchange for permission to make their way to Lisbon. Baumbach was ordered to go to the Kornfeld estate and inventory the artworks, furnishings, and other property. Rather than leave his “godson” behind in Budapest for three days, he took the boy with him. As Baumbach itemized the material, George walked around the grounds and spent time with Kornfeld’s staff. It was his first visit to such a mansion, and the first time he rode a horse. He collaborated with no one and he paid attention to what he understood to be his primary responsibility: making sure that no one doubted that he was Sandor Kiss. Among his practical concerns was to make sure that no one saw him pee. [Page 37]

We pointed this out after Beck first attacked Soros for not feeling guilt for supposedly “taking the property from the Jews as a teenager.” Nonetheless, and in spite of fierce condemnation from the Jewish community, Beck returned to the attack tonight:
Wow Beck gets called out again on this lie that you are defending Beck cited anti-Semitic smear that Soros pursued a Jewish “agenda” to collapse Southeast Asian currencies. On the October 5, 2010, edition of his Fox News show, Beck continued his smear campaign against George Soros, saying that “many, including the Malaysian prime minister, believe it was billionaire speculator George Soros who helped trigger the [Southeast Asian] economic meltdown” in 1997, a reference to former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad’s false and anti-Semitic claim that Soros was part of a Jewish “agenda” to collapse Southeast Asian currencies. In an October 10, 1997, report from the Malaysian newspaper Berita Harian (excerpted by BBC Summary of World Broadcasts, accessed via Nexis), Mahathir was quoted as saying: “We do not want to say that this is a plot by the Jews, but in reality it is a Jew who triggered the currency plunge, and coincidentally Soros is a Jew. It is also a coincidence that the Malaysians are mostly Muslim.” From the report:

Kuala Terengganu, 10th October: Prime Minister Datuk Seri Dr Mahathir Mohamad has said that the government suspects that the Jews have an agenda to destroy the economy of this country and other Muslim countries. Also Dr Mahathir did not reject the possibility that the attack on the local currency was to shut his mouth so that he would stop criticizing George Soros, a Jew who hailed from Hungary. “We do not want to say that this is a plot by the Jews, but in reality it is a Jew who triggered the currency plunge, and coincidentally Soros is a Jew. It is also a coincidence that the Malaysians are mostly Muslim.”

“Indeed, the Jews are not happy to see Muslims. If it were Palestine, the Jews would rob Palestinians. Thus this is what they are doing to our country,” he said when referring to Soros’ involvement in the depreciation of the ringgit.

According to an October 11, 1997, Agence France-Presse article (from Nexis), Mahathir later denied that he was suggesting a Jewish agenda resulted in his country’s economic crisis:

Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad Saturday said he did not accuse the Jews of undermining the economy of Malaysia and other Moslem countries.

“I merely stated that this person (American financier George Soros) is Jewish,” Mahathir was quoted as saying by Bernama news agency in the Moslem dominated eastern coastal state of Terengganu.

As AFP reported in an October 15, 2006, article, Mahathir met with Soros and said of their meeting: “Mr Soros said he was not involved in the devaluation of the Malaysian currency and that other people were involved. And I have accepted that.”

Beck: Soros is a “puppet master” looking to create a “new world order.” During the November 3, 2010, edition of his Fox News show, Beck said that Soros was the “puppet master” who was “on the other end of Barack’s BlackBerry.” Beck went on to suggest Soros was using the Federal Reserve to create a “new world order” (transcript from Nexis).

Beck: Soros and his “minion, Al Gore” have “been preparing this new world order for a long time. They helped create it.” From the September 23, 2010, edition of Glenn Beck (from Nexis):

BECK: This is the way of the world. The elites have decided that the world is unsustainable. And so, we’ve got to have cute, little cooking stove with the Land Rover, and redistribute the wealth. And that way, we’ll be able to have a global system and everything will be on the road to recovery — not for Homer, but for these guys.

You notice I said that we — we’ll have global governance run by elites. I’m not an elite. Are you elite?

You don’t really have a say. I don’t have a say on this. I didn’t know about the stupid cook stove idea. Did you get a shot of that one?

It’s nice to think about, you know, all this global warming thing is about the planet and warm food for hungry Ugandans. But, unfortunately, no. No. No. Screw Ugandans, screw you.

This is about Land Rover and Merrill Lynch and JPMorgan Chase and Citigroup and Goldman Sachs. That’s what this is about. Those companies that are still in existence, they stand to make billions every year. The rich — and I don’t mean the rich guy, you know, who you work for at the factory that you see every day. Hey, Bill the rich millionaire. I don’t mean that guy.

I mean these guys, George Soros, spooky dudes who are waiting over here to buy the cook stove. Yes, and I got my minion, Al Gore. And we are going to make cook stoves for everybody. Well, not everybody, but we will have plenty of food for our cook stoves.

People are writing our policy over cocktail parties, pushing the climate change, carbon trade garbage and getting richer and richer and richer on whose money? Your dollars. Yours. They are taking it through your tax dollars.

You have nothing to do with it. We are buying cook stoves!

The regular CEOs are freaking out right now. Most of them voted for these clowns, but they’re freaking out now because they can’t keep the doors open. They know we’re in trouble.

But those are the regular CEOs. Not the Soros type players, the globalists. They have been preparing this new world order for a long time. They helped create it. Look at how Al Gore has positioned himself. He has profited on the hysteria he created, increasing his personal wealth 50 to 100 times or more.

Look, I got no problem anybody wants to be a capitalist. I got no problem on that. But while you’re increasing the fortunes of the elites, they’re also galvanizing their power and setting up global governance and he is living in a mansion that is using 10 times the amount of electricity that you and I are supposed to use.

Just don’t be a hypocrite about it, Al.

Beck: Soros is “one of the guys looking to replace the capitalist system once it’s been destroyed.” On the June 21, 2010, edition of Glenn Beck, Beck said, “I don’t know if [Soros] is a radical that’s been trying to implement the Cloward and Piven strategy on collapsing the system.” Beck went on to claim that Soros is “one of the guys looking to replace the capitalist system once it has been destroyed.” This accusation is based on a distortion of a Soros quote. Soros said that the international currency system — not the capitalist system — is “broken and needs to be reconstituted.”

Beck: Soros is orchestrating a collapse of American currency to enrich himself. On the October 5, 2010, edition of Glenn Beck, Beck claimed that Soros “thought the dollar needs to be devalued” and cited a Financial Times op-ed in which Soros argued for more stimulus spending. Beck said, “Spooky dude says spend more money.” He added: “I don’t know if this is the start of the latest, you know, Soros push to collapse a currency. I don’t know if this is it; oh, but it’s coming. Be prepared, because powerful people like George Soros would like that to happen. Because they’re preparing. Have you?”

Beck: Soros “likes to crush the market,” then “makes a financial move” at “the right time.” On the October 18, 2010, edition of his radio show, Beck said:

Please, watchdogs, keep your eye on George Soros. George Soros’ time is about to come. He is a guy who likes to crush the market and he waits and he positions, and then he makes a financial move. He waits for the right time, and his time is coming, where he’s gonna say, “I don’t know if I have confidence in this currency anymore,” and it’s over.

He’s doing exactly the same thing now with the confidence in the Democratic Party. Here’s George Soros, a guy who is funding to what, $400 million? Some of these organizations — his Open Society shadow government — and this guy has just come out and said he’s not going to help the Democrats at all, because it’s inevitable. George Soros’ power is not in a star chamber, his power is — you remember the E.F. Hutton commercials? “If E.F. Hutton speaks, people listen.” That’s George Soros. The guy’s practically a damn country, and when he says something, others take notice. So he’s been telegraphing, “I’m not going to spend any money.” Why would you do that? “I’m not going to spend any money in this election for any of these Democrats.” That freezes the money of others, they’re like, “You know what, if George Soros ain’t gonna do it — if he doesn’t think it’s worth doing, I ain’t gonna to do it.”

That’s exactly what he does on the economy, and I want you to watch, because it happens every time. He will come out between the election and the bond auction, which I think is in March, and he is gonna come out with a statement that says, “This government, now of the Republicans, is irresponsible because of x, y, or z. They’re spending too much, they’re not cutting enough, they’re” — whatever it is, I don’t know what combination it’ll be, but he’ll say, “This — I don’t have confidence that this government is going to be able to pull through this economic crisis with these kinds of things, I’m looking at maybe the United States currency not being a good investment.” And it will be over.

You think I’m wrong, Pat? I think this is what’s coming. So watchdogs, please, watch everything you can on George Soros, and know that he is — I don’t know if he’s the guy behind the BlackBerry, but — I decided today I’m going to do a special on George Soros. We’re going to do an hour long — maybe a two-day special. But it’s not going to just be a “hey we’re doing a special show.” We’re going to do a documentary on him. And we’ve been researching him for quite some time. But I think we’re going to — we were just going to do a show. I think I’m going to do a special on him, because Americans need to know who the guy is in the shadow. Who is this guy? And what is he planning? Don’t know what he’s planning for the future, but I can show you his past. And boy, things aren’t looking good.

Beck: Soros “won’t care when our day of reckoning comes because he’ll profit on that.” From the August 25, 2010, edition of Glenn Beck (from Nexis):

BECK: Look, gang, this is all about power. Do you know who is taking money out of the stock market? Who’s taking the off-ramp right now? George Soros. Wait a minute, you mean the guy who’s — yes, the guy who’s issuing these statements on me? Yes! George Soros, the fund management, reduced his $25 billion in equity investments to $8.8 billion in March and then down to $5.1 billion at the end of June. Why? He’s getting out of the market because he knows.

Experts are saying that they believe he is shifting his money towards government bonds. Gee, what do you think? Maybe to be liquid.

This guy doesn’t care about people or countries, just money and power. He didn’t care when he famously profited off of England’s misery. He won’t care when our day of reckoning comes because he’ll profit on that as well. He and his family will be going to Singapore.

Well, can your family go to Singapore? Make no mistake. The day is coming and we must stick together and rely on the truth.

Beck: Soros controls the Democratic Party and “the left”

Beck: Democrats “were eaten” by “the labor unions, the communists, the radicals, the globalists, George Soros.” During the May 12, 2010, edition of his Fox News show, Beck criticized Republican Sen. Bob Bennett (UT) for “working with Democrats.” Beck said, “And again, let me give the hot news flash to the ‘New York Times.’ Bob Bennett and anyone else living under the illusion of a true Democratic Party — what are you smoking? The Democrats don’t exist anymore. They were eaten by the progressives — the labor unions, the communists, the radicals, the globalists, George Soros — yes” (from Nexis).

Beck: “You’ll understand the role that George Soros plays” in the Democratic Party being “over,” “gone.” On the November 9, 2010, edition of his radio show, Glenn Beck said:

Tonight is the beginning of the revealing of the puppet master. It is kind of a — there is so much to tell. There’s a lifetime to tell about George Soros, and it is very complex. But we go into the beginnings of the puppets, the strings. I think you’re gonna learn some things tonight that you had no idea — if it makes it into the show tonight because we’re still editing and everything else, if it makes it into the show tonight, if it doesn’t it will be on tomorrow — you’ll understand campaign finance reform and McCain-Feingold. You’ll understand why it happened. You will understand what I have been saying about how the Democratic Party is over. It is gone. You’ll understand the role that George Soros plays. You’ll understand the history.

This isn’t conjecture. I’m not asking you tonight to say that George Soros is — that you have to take my word that he is collapsing our dollar and that he is subverting the Constitution and planning for a collapse of this regime — the American Constitution. He is collapsing us. And I’m not asking you to believe me. I’m going to show you all of the things he has in place, and then I’m going to show you his history. He’s done it before. And it’s clear. It’s exact– he does it the same way every time.

Beck: Many on the left “are paid and fully purchased by the Soros regime.” From the November 8, 2010, edition of Fox News’ Glenn Beck (from Nexis):

BECK: America, hello, by the way.

I want to talk to you a little bit and kind of give you a little preview and a prelude of what is happening this week. If you are a long- time fan of this program, you know what happens when you Facebook post or tweet a positive or a defense of me or something that we talk about on this program. Try it if you haven’t done it before. Oh, you are in for a treat. The flood gates of progressive hell open up on you.

And there is a seemingly, seemingly endless barrage of comments that pour in from people from all over the world strangely enough. And they are all the left of the left. Many of them are paid and fully purchased by the Soros regime.

Most of the comments that you’ll get back won’t be directed at me. They will be directed at you. You will be demonized for defending or even stupid enough to buy anything on the program.

I’ve asked you before and I’ll ask again — this week especially — do not believe anything I tell you, because I tell it to you. Make sure you do your own homework.

If this is the first time seeing this program — well, I think you’re in for an eye-opener, too, because you’ve heard me described as a guy who’s just full of hate, a racist, a conspiracy theorist, just trying to get people to blow stuff up or create another Oklahoma City. That’s the latest from the Soros clan. Well, if that were true, then America just isn’t the place that I thought it was. Most likely not the place you thought it was. I mean a racist, hate-filled host who is openly trying to get people to be violent would have zero viewers in the America I know and love.

Beck: Soros controls the media

Beck: Soros has “purchased the system” of mass media. During the November 8, 2010, edition of his Fox News show, Beck said, “The press gets a lot of their money from George Soros. He has purchased the system.” Beck went on to purportedly show “the media purchased by George Soros” and who are “in the bag for him.” Beck also said that “the press has protected the puppet master for a very long time,” but that his show was “the canary in the coal mine.”

Beck: Soros is “buying journalists.” On the October 20, 2010, edition of Glenn Beck, Beck said:

America, George Soros is buying up your whole damn town. Yesterday, we told you the Tides Foundation is funding the Huffington Post investigative arm. That’s the arm that says, “Get him!”

Then, like Soros is funding now Media Matters, you have Soros basically announcing today, “Get him!” And then you have a new “Get him” department in NPR, $1.8 million to buy 100 journalists, again funded by George Soros.

So, really, this wanted poster, “Dead or Alive,” is really only 3 or $4 million of his money. We don’t know how much money Tides has given to the Huffington Post Investigative Fund. They like to keep their donors anonymous. Check their website.

That’s weird, because nobody’s saying that in the press when the president is saying about shadow organizations buying elections and stuff. They’re not buying elections only. They’re buying journalists — NPR, Media Matters.

Beck lashes out at “George Soros media networks.” From the July 21, 2010, edition of Glenn Beck (from Nexis):

BECK: How many times have you read in the media things like — oh, here’s one. Beck distorts Obama administration’s language. You know, this is from George Soros media networks, but it’s also — it’s also on “Think Progress,” George Soros, and “Huffington Post,” all the — you know.

How about things like — “Glenn Beck and fixed news launch another smear campaign? “Glenn Beck takes Fred Nugeberger (ph) out of context.” “Glenn Beck baselessly distorts.” Glenn Beck, crazy man, jumps to conclusions.” Yes.

And most of these blogs and the media outlets weren’t all owned by George Soros and paid as much attention to the administration and government as they did trying to attack me and faux news — I love it, I’ve got a gem! “Faux news.” F-A-U-X. Oh, that’s brilliant!

If they would pay attention to the real news, the republic probably would be safer. But after seeing the news like we did from the “Daily Caller” and “Journo-List” that we showed you yesterday — and there are more today, journalists showing their true colors. Let’s show you that in a minute. It’s easy to see why no one in the media bothers asking this administration questions.

Instead, the outlets say — I’m the one jumping to conclusions. I’m the one smearing and lying. Oh, man!

[...]

BECK: See, context matters, but not to the people of the Soros company. They believe media matters. “Media Matters.” No, no.

No, not so much anymore, my friends because we realize to you, context doesn’t matter. You see, that’s how, you know, call me old-fashioned, but when I was a kid, that’s what we used to do.

Beck: Soros controls elections

Beck suggested Soros was behind purported scheme to steal MN Senate election. On the January 18, 2010, edition of Glenn Beck, Beck said of Minnesota Secretary of State Mark Ritchie, “He is the Katherine Harris. He was an ACORN-supported guy, handpicked by the George Soros-funded SOS Project. SOS is designed specifically to have control of the power in close elections — lesson learned apparently.” On October 13, Beck said of Soros, “the guy who spent the last few elections donating tens of millions of dollars, trying to elect progressive and push the progressive issues, started SOS, where you can control the secretary of state — you know, the people who are in charge of the recounts in states like, oh, I don’t know, Minnesota, Al Franken.” (From Nexis.)

In fact, the suggestion that George Soros, Mark Ritchie, or anyone else stole the Minnesota Senate election is completely fabricated. In its decision rejecting Norm Coleman’s appeal of the decision declaring Franken the winner, the Minnesota Supreme Court stated that “[n]o claim of fraud in the election or during the recount was made by either party” and that “Coleman’s counsel confirmed at oral argument that Coleman makes no claim of fraud on the part of either voters or election officials.”

Beck: Soros is bankrolling U.S. elections. From the January 28, 2010, edition of Beck’s Fox News show, in which he discussed Obama’s State of the Union remarks on the Supreme Court decision in Citizens United v. Federal Elections Commission (from Nexis):

It is good news that Abe Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League has condemned Glenn Beck for using Nazi imagery and themes in his war against George Soros, even if the next day he retracted some (not most) of his attack.

In fact, Foxman, who survived the Holocaust as a small boy posing as a Catholic in Poland, stood firmly on his belief that Beck’s attack on a 14 year old Soros for trying to survive is “monstrous.” But he was forced to utter the words that Beck is not anti-Jewish to please his dear friend, Rupert Murdoch, who owns Glenn Beck.

I am proud that Media Matters for America is doing everything we can to expose Beck’s libels. So are other liberal groups — some of which, like us, have benefitted from Soros’s philanthropy. (Like Beck, I know that Democratic and progressive causes would be much worse off if it wasn’t for Soros and other incredibly generous progressive –and often Jewish — philanthropists). Also playing a great role is Keith Olbermann who uses facts and documentation to prove that a scared Jewish boy in Nazi Europe never was a collaborator with Nazis, a theme developed so that Beck could say “I’m not the Nazi here…”

Beck is entitled to hate Soros for helping to keep progressive causes alive. But he has crossed a huge line by attacking him by way of his ethnic background. And when he accuses this Holocaust survivor of collaborating with Nazis at age 14, he simply moves into the world of deluded anti-Semitism. And when he uses the Nazi mantra that Jews are the “puppet masters” who rule the world, he is ready to be a columnist for the Thunderbolt. (I also expect Germany to ban Beck from traveling there; it takes a hard line against allowing Nazi apologists into the country).

But where is the bastion of the American Jewish establishment, the self-proclaimed battler against anti-Semitism, the American Jewish Committee? One would think that given its history (back in the 1930′s, it both opposed establishment of a Jewish state and urged other Jewish organizations to not to boycott the German regime), it would be first in line to condemn Beck’s attack on Jews today.

If a Muslim kid pushes a Jewish kid in Sweden, AJC is there. If a Palestinian textbook implies that Tel Aviv, not Jerusalem, is the capital of Israel, the AJC is there.

But if one of the most powerful opinion leaders in America uses the airwaves for three days of smears against Jews that resemble Der Sturmer, the AJC disappears. (It pains me to note that if Rabbi Meir Kahane was around, Beck would have to hide in his cellar. Kahame, racist that he was about other groups, believed in fighting any anti-Semites or Holocaust revisionists, let alone an American talk show host who attacked Jews for surviving the Shoah.)

Of course, AJC’s executive director, David Harris, doesn’t like Soros any more than Beck does. Why? Because Soros supports J Street (and doesn’t give to the American Jewish Committee on top of it).

David Harris, executive director of the American Jewish Committee, said in an interview, “I can only assume [J Street officials] have concluded that associating George Soros with an allegedly quote-unquote ‘pro-Israel organization’ may not be convincing to many who have followed George Soros and his views on the Middle East.”

But that is not the main reason AJC and the other “Israel is all we care about” organizations are silent about Beck’s attacks on Soros. The main reason is that they have redefined anti-Semitism as not supporting the government of Israel. For Harris, it does not seem to matter if you hate Jews, so long as you don’t criticize Israel. Foxman, who unlike Harris lived through the Shoah, sees it differently. He knows anti-Semitism when he sees it. (The people who were trying to kill him as a child were not “anti-Israel” per se).
Note to Harris: I forbid you, and the whole AIPAC single-issue crowd, from ever using the term Six million Jews again. Six million Jews were killed but you may not use that figure. You must reduce that number by two-thirds. Because two-thirds of the six million were secular or socialist or Communist or converts to Christianity or anti-Zionist or socialist Zionists or assimilated or whatever you think Soros is. You must limit yourselves to invoking those Jews whose counterparts you defend today. If you have no interest in defending these people, as Jews, in life, you are forbidden to invoke their memories in death.

The rest of us can still mourn all six million Jews who were murdered in the Shoah, even the “bad Jews” you don’t like. After all, we defend the ones who are still around.

Again you need to be speaking out the real threat called the Koch brothers not soros. You really are clueless about what is happening to this country. You show everyday that KO is this generations Murrow.

Good stuff K.O

com·men·ta·tor/ˈkämənˌtātər/
Noun:
1.A person who comments on events, esp. on television or radio.
2.A person who writes a commentary on a text.

jour·nal·ist/ˈjərnl-ist/
Noun:
A person who writes for newspapers or magazines or prepares news to be broadcast on radio or television.

Olbermann didn’t provide news. He provided commentary. Actually, he was too lazy even to do that. Just summarized the daily talking points off of DailyKos, MMfA, TPM, etc.

That does not show that KO is not a jouranlist. He put out stories daily that were breaking aka vating fruad in Ohio and talking about Iraq, you show that you do not know what commentary and journalism is. Also KO used all kinds and still uses all kinds or sources. I watched the show, he was using CBS, ABC, NewYork times, Rolling Stone, Huffington Post, and so for. You show that you never watched because he never just used those sites, he used all kinds of sites even ones that are not what you think are bias. KO has called out democrats and republicans. Again all you show is why KO is this generations Murrow and how igorant you are when it comes to how he is and what Countdown is. You really are pathic, you need to get KO helped break stories on Corport Corportion, he was talking about Occupy before then media was, and calling out lies in Iraq, that is how made up this post is. Did KO do commentary yes, but they were in what you called specail comments, other than that he was praticing jouranlism.
You need to give up all you are showing is how igorant you are when it comes to who KO is, you have only embarrassed yourself.
You show that KO again is a journalist and this generations Murrow, keep lying about who KO is that is all you know how to do.

Also want to correct a mistake I made, KO covered the election fraud that had happened in Ohio in 2004, there is no such thing as voter fraud. I apologize sincerly for that error. KO again kee being yourself and you will always have a fan in me. Kee showing why you are this generations Murrow, love you faults and all.

Steering this thread back to baseball (sort of), shed not too many tears for the Yankees and the most bloated payroll in baseball.
Derek Jeter will surely find solace in his $80-million mansion and rehabilitate while fielding dates with Mariah Carey, Madonna or some such celebrity. Meanwhile, noisy A-Roid will return to “livin’ la vida loca” in his $160-million mansion and resume dating Ricky Martin or whoever it is now.

Jeter has far too much taste to ever be involved with Madonna.

Gary Matthews spent most of his MLB career being underestimated by fools and was traded for nothing a couple of times. I would’ve actually preferred nothing rather than Bob Walk.

Joe Girardi, suddenly imperiled…

Baseball in the Bronx… I’m wondering the team traded the Steinbrenner family if Keith would be consider becoming a fan again… In the play-offs, the song is usually “win or go home”; with them it’s “win or die.”

If Cashman can get Giancarlo Stanton in this deal he’s a genius. My proposal: A-Rod, Cano (to be traded for prospects by Miami in July), Nova and Gardner for JJ, Buehrle, and Stanton plus $50 mil going from the Yankees to Loria’s yacht collection.

Nice job Keith, I loved the 1983 story.

I prefer not to politicize my comments here–like Keith Olbermann, I am here because I love baseball. I would note that whenever politics come up here, it comes from the right-wing that dislikes Olbermann. So let me just mention to them that their behavior, especially since the day of Barack Obama’s inauguration, is proof that they are treasonous terrorist sympathizers who hate America and don’t deserve to be in a country as great as this one.

Now to the topic at hand … back in the 1940s, Larry MacPhail ran the Yankees, got Tom Yawkey drunk, and talked him into trading Ted Williams for Joe DiMaggio. MacPhail believed–understandably–that they would do so much better in different ballparks. Yawkey sobered up and said he couldn’t do it.

Another great trade happened at Toots Shor’s between the Yankees of Dan Topping and the Dodgers of Walter O’Malley. The latter allowed that he hated Red Barber. Topping admitted to disliking Mel Allen. They agreed to a trade. The next day–”sans booze,” according to the witness, Jim Woods, who was Allen’s #2 broadcaster at the time–they changed their minds, but after that season (1953), O’Malley didn’t try to keep Barber and he joined the Yankees.

First
Micheal, Stop lying about who KO is. Only people like you who love to lie and live in fantasy worlds think that. Truth is KO has never and sorry if you say different all you will show is that you have no idea what honesty and what facts are, KO has and never will politcaizse baseball that is pure BS and you know it. I watched him do sports and he unlike Limbugh alwayd kept sports and baseball seperate. Right thiere you show how igorant you are on KO, you do not even know what poltizing sports means. So sorry that is a made up lie. Thanks Micheal for showing how dishonest you are. Again I do not listen to people like you who love to bash KO with your made up BS that has been debunked and shown over and over again like made up KO politiczes baseball lie, and do not say it again because it will show that you hate facts and truth. You just made me love and respect you more and more with your made up BS. Keep lying about KO that is all you know how to do.

On my first post you are right about conservatives and Obama, so I sincerly apologize about not always telling the truth, having said that Micheal, you need to apologize for lying about KO and baseball, I have read this blog since KO put it up and the only ones that have ended up talking politics have been trolls and me trying to stop them putting up debunked crap. It had nothing to do with KO or the stories. So sorry about the first post, but I got mad because I hate when people bash others like KO.
KO keep being yourself and showing why you are this generations Murrow and why you will be around for years to come. Love you fautls and all. Sorry you got abused at Current. Keep being yourself and you will always be around for years to come.

When I apologize I am mean extremely, but again you need Micheal to know that KO has never put sports and politcs together, that is a lie that conservatives or I should say that people that love to bash him say. I watched Football night in America and I saw KO only doing highligts, nothing that had to do with politcs. Again KO keep being yourself and you will always have a fan in me. Love you faults and all.

IF A-Rod is still with NY for spring training and has a less than stellar spring send him to AA and re-invent him as a pitcher, a reverse Babe Ruth so to speak. He still has a killer arm.

He changed positions once, why not again? With more inter league play coming up this could be a brilliant move. He’s out of the public eye, gets to rehab his image and game and regains some trade value.

Good BB Nerd as always Sir. Keep them coming.

“It is also speculative” -Keith Olbermann
Like this entire subject, huh Keith? You made up a rumor it blew up in your face, just own up to it.

David
Wow keep lying KO, did not make this rumor up, that David has been proven to false. You Daivd you are putting out a lying post showing that David has zero clue what making up and honesty are and what truth is. auvd there were talks and it got proven true, they were not serious bu thier were talks. So explain to again how KO made this up. ESPN was the first that found out but KO was the one that broke it.
Daivd you show once again that KO has no idea how to make crap up and that you sir have no idea what honesty is. This rumor is not Daivd and never was made up and nothing that you will say will change that. Keep showing that David does not know what made up means. Daivd just again put out and BS debunked post. Sorry Daivd but this is a debunked lie and you know it.
You know that KO made up no such rumor and that Daivd cannot handle the fact that thier was a conversatoin. Keep lying and bashing KO and putting out debunked BS posts that people can tell are lies when they see it.David you sir have zero clue what facts and honesrty are. You do not know what a truer story is when it right there on the face.
Daivd apologize for this and all your other made up posts that only showed that you like makine crap up. How come ESPN and Heymen knew about the talks and conversation, how is that made up.
Sorry but Daivd you show once again that you not KO are a troll that comes here to bash KO and put out made lies about him. KO did not make crap up and again Daivd specluating is not what made up rumors looks like. KO was not making crap up, and you instead on admiting the truth that KO told a real story you igonre it and lie about what happened. YOu sir are pathic and need to do the right thing and retract this and all your other made up posts and apologize sincerly to KO and tell thr truth. You hate KO because KO suppose to let Fox and conservatives get away with lying.
Daivd explain how talking about a joke that happened that showed that they were talking about ARod is made up, oh yeah that right it not, KO Daivd unlke you has no idea how to make crap up and how to lie. YOu sir have no idea how to tell the truth and how to admit that you are wrong and apologize to KO. You show why KO is this generations Murrow and why Daivd would not know journlism if it bit him, just like he would not rumors espically true ones if it bit him on the head. Daivd this is a debunked lie that KO made this rumor up, Everyone expect you knows that this was not made up and that you are lying throuhg your teeth.
Keep making me love and respect KO with your embarassing lying posts about him. Daivd this rumor is and never wil be made up that is truth and whole truth and nothing that you say will change that. Only in your fantasy world is this made up, while in the real world which you are not living in right know this rumor proved to be true, a conversation David even if is joking is still a conversation and it shows that yes even if joking were talking, so yes this did happen and KO made nothing up and David who shows over and over agian not to live in the real world knows that this story like everyother story KO does is and never will be made up.
Keep embarassing yourself with you debunked likes about real stories that KO put out there, that is all David knows how to do, you show why KO has zero clue how to make up crap and that you have zero clue what hoensty and facts and true stories look like. Daivd people with commen sense which you show over and over again that you do not have, know that joking with each other is still a conversation or talk even if it is not serious, that is what KO’s story Daivd and do not say different because that will and always David be another made up lie from you, was what KO was talking about. Daivd hates that KO cannot make up stories and loves to come and lie about and show how igonrant that he is on KO, still cannot admit that KO was not the one that heard and was talking about it. Keep embarrassing yourself with your fantasy made you lying posts that show how igorant you are on who KO is, what speculation is what true stories are and what made up is. You just make me love and respect and show that KO unlke you cannot make crap up and lie. Keep bashing KO that is all you know how to do.
Also remember thier is no right or wrong in speculating and you cannot make up rumor if you speculate. KO keep being yourself and sorry you got unjustily fired at Current and you will always be perment on my ipod,ipad and life, love you faults and all.

Again for anyone that wants to come on here and put up that debunked lie that KO made up a rumor, let me tell you this, jockingly talking about trading Arod, that is still talking about trading his and having a conversation about trading and do not tell me different because I will know that you are lying off the bat, So KO is right when he said there were talks about a trade, but for what is known for now those trade talks were not serious, here again is what KO is talking about DETROIT — What began as a casual, joking conversation between New York Yankees president Randy Levine and Miami Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria about the possibility of Alex Rodriguez playing for the Marlins may develop into serious trade talks this offseason, according to a source with knowledge of the conversation.
According to the source, Levine and Loria discussed the possibility of A-Rod playing in Miami, his hometown, but characterized it as a joke between old friends.
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The conversation between the Yankees and Marlins initially was reported by Keith Olbermann on his MLB.com “Nerd Blog.” Variety also reported the news.
However, Yankees general manager Brian Cashman said he has had no trade talks regarding Rodriguez with anyone and described the first report as “false.”
“I have had no discussions whatsoever with the (Miami) Marlins,” Cashman said. “Certainly would never have any trade discussions under the circumstances. I certainly have not had any discussions with any GMs other than the pregame meetings with Dan Duquette with the Orioles, with the umpires and then with Dave Dombrowski (of the Tigers). But I’ve had no trade discussions, so false. One hundred percent false.”
According to the source, Loria said in his conversation about A-Rod with Levine, “Alex is Mr. Miami; it would be great if he played here for us.”
To which Levine is said to have replied, “You can have him.”
A second source with knowledge of Rodriguez’ thinking said the likely only place Rodriguez eventually would accept a trade to is Miami. Rodriguez has five years and $114 million remaining on his contract, not including milestone home run bonuses.
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“I love the Yankees. I love this organization,” Rodriguez said before Game 4 of the AL Championship Series on Wednesday night, in which he was not in the starting lineup. “My focus right now is to help this team come together and win a game. Do not allow all this negativity and questions and gossip stuff or this crap or that crap, let’s just focus on winning a game and go from there … What I will tell you is I hope nothing is going on like that at this point because our only focus, from top to bottom, is to win a baseball game right now.”
Levine refused to directly comment on the conversation with Loria or what it would take to trade Rodriguez.
Appearing Sunday on Ian O’Connor’s show on ESPN New York 98.7 FM, Levine told O’Connor the following regarding A-Rod’s future as a Yankee:
“That’s like one of those questions: Where’s the stock market going to be in 2017? Who’s going to be president on Nov. 15?. If I had a crystal ball to predict all of that stuff, I’d be a lot smarter than I am. I’m not going to go there.”
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Rodriguez has been marginalized in the Yankees’ lineup this postseason. He entered Wednesday night 3 for 23, including 0 for 18 with 12 strikeouts against right-handers, and repeatedly has been benched and pinch hit for in the playoffs.
“For all our fan base: Let’s root for Alex, the contract is what it is, and he’s there, and we hope he gets hot,” Levine told O’Connor. “It’s part of what we deal with all the time, just like any other contract.”
It isn’t unprecedented for Levine, along with ownership, to lead a deal. Two winters ago, the Yankees signed Rafael Soriano after Cashman had ruled out the possibility. Levine, with the backing of owner Hal Steinbrenner, brokered a deal for the right-hander.
The question that still needs to be answered is how much of the contract the Yankees would be willing to eat. The Marlins may want the Yankees to take reliever Heath Bell, who is owed $18 million over the next two years, plus has a team option for $9 million for 2015. He could have some use for the Yankees because Soriano may opt out of his contract after this season.
Bell could provide insurance for Mariano Rivera’s return as the team’s closer. If Rivera is fine, Bell could team with David Robertson to set up Rivera. Also this is what John Heyman said Keith Olbermann created a stir when he reported on MLB.com that the two teams have “held discussions” regarding A-Rod. While that is technically true, sources indicate there has not yet been an exchange of offers. Olbermann’s piece suggested the Yankees would either pay all or almost all of the $114 million remaining over five more years on Rodriguez’s deal, or possibly take back embattled reliever Heath Bell and pay a bit less. Even again Heymen says that KO is telling truth in a tenichal way. Also ESPN had this, and for what I am learning about sports they would have more than likely released this and do not say different because I would know that is a lie also, before KO did, so this was something that was going around even before KO talked about it. Also when you put out a speculation you are not putting out a rumor or a made up rumor, you are just talking about what could happen or not happen in something aka a trade. This is and sorry will not be told different because that would be a lie, a right or wrong all in what are trade talks. There were talks as ESPN, Heymen and KO showed they just were not serious. So again if you come and tell me KO made this up, I will know right and than not to listen and know that you are troling this site and do not even want to disagree or anything because you right there have shown that you lied about what happened and only care about bashing KO than listening to the truth.
KO has shown in this that he cannot even make crap up when he talks baseball, is KO prefect no, but he was right on and always will be when it comes to this story, thier were talks of trade, but they were not serious, and KO in his first story said that he did not know how serious they had gotten, so again no made up rumor here. KO keep showing me why you are this generations Murrow and why you will be around for years to come, love you faults and all.

“…jockingly talking about trading Arod…”
Jockingly?
LMFAO
No wonder you’re a KO fan.

BY
You like David show that you would not commen sense if it bit you. BY let me explain to you sense you seem to not get what conversations and trades mean. Thier are these two mangers they have a conversation about Arod and wanting to trade, him, jockigly part is that it not in serious talks, just that they talked about trading Arod from one team to another, that is what trade talks are, so yes this story is not made up. Also you would not know what a KO fan is.
KO fans unlike you are informed they unlike you use commen sense, they unlike you and David know that you cannot speculate on something that is made up, because where is the truth, KO fans unlike you know that thier is no right and wrong in speculation that is why when you say by that someone is speculating you have to say that the story is true. By you show that KO fans have more intelligence and reason in thier heads than you do in your lifetime. You show that you do not know what a conversation is and that talking about trading someone even jocklying is still talking about a trade just not serious.
You need to stop bashing KO and his fans, you are igorant on them as you are on facts and truth, you show that you have no idea who a fan of KO looks like. KO fans unlike you BY use are heads and brains and our commen sense. You use nothing but made up crap about KO that has all been debunked. Thanks for showing me that you love to lie about who KO and his fans are and showing how igonratnt you are on conversation, neverless what trade talks are, and what speculation is. You show that KO fans have more sense and brains and intelligence and tolerance than you will every know. Keep bashing that is all BY knows how. You would not know a KO fan if it bit you on the tongue. ALso you keep showing that you are so igorant when it comes to KO, fans and facts in general.
KO fans do not listen to people like you who want to believe the lies that the Koch Brothers tell, and who want to put debunked crap about Soros, and who put debunked crap from Strautan and who love to lie about people’s careers. Sorry but you do not know who KO fans are. Jockingly talking about trading Arod By is still having a conversation about trading him, you do not have to be a fan to know that. You only have to have something that KO fans have which you have never heard of commen sense. Keep lying about KO and showing how igorant you are when it comes to him. KO unlike you never lies and he never makes up stories.
By you cannot speculate if a story or rumor made up anyone with commen sense By can tell you that, that is how embarassing and BS this post is. Do you love to show how igorant you are when it comes to facts. No wonder you believe the lies of the Koch brothers. Sorry KO fans think, I seen fans get angry at him for leaving Current, for critizing Obama and others, we know when to agree and disagree but we also have commen sense and when we see that thier were talks about trading Arod even if it jocking, we unlike you put two and two together and know that thier were talks and that this story was not made up, if we see articles that show that ESPn By had the story we know and unlike you put two and two together and see that this story was going around way before KO talked about it, we know how to do something that By has never heard of and it called research, all the research shows that this story is true thier were talks, but people are just speculating on how serious and non-serious they become. Learn what commen sense is and what facts are and than retract all you made up debunked crap about KO.
Also I know about corupt courption before I knew who KO is and how bad the Koch brothers. KO fans By do not take what he says as fact the reason why I know that he does not lie, because I come to the same conclusions that he does and already know that what he talking about has been proven true because of what I known from studying history and just researching in between and common sense. So keep lying about KO fans you would not know a fan of KO if it bit you, you again are just embarrassing yourself with your igorance on KO and his fans. Keep making me love and respect KO more and more, love you KO faults and all.

It’s pretty hilarious that the one idiot on here talking about “commen sense” can’t even spell common right.

Olbermann is a hack, everyone knows it. Like I said, I will apologize when a trade happens, until then I will continue to believe that this idiot Olbermann is a blowhard. I’ve thought that way for the past 5 years and I haven’t been proven wrong yet.

It ridclous that a person like you seem to not get, it does not matter if I can spell commen sense or not, that still shows that you do not have it, you show it everyday with your made up posts.
I have to laugh at how igorant and do not say different because it will only show that you are igorant about how trade talks go. WEither Arod and Heath Bell are with the yankee, Marlins or even Diamnodbacks that still does not mean that talks to trade them to the Yankees did not happen. They broke down, Marlins were talking to Diamond backs but were worried about those breakingdown do they talked to yankees for insurance, I do not have to be a baseball fan to know that happens all the time. Or they did not become that serious to were a trade would happen. That is how I know that you still owe and always will owe KO a huge apologze and need to retract all your non-sense ridclous posts that show that you have always been igorant about who KO is. So I would rather spell the word wrong and have it. You show over and over again that you have never had it. Keep showing that you are the hack and have been bashing and lying about who KO is for the last five years. All your posts do is show that he this generations Murrow and that he will never know unlike you how to lie and make crap up. You really make me love and respect him more and more with your igorance about who he is. KO keep being yourself and again sorry you got unjustily fired at Current, not be happy if you do not get the justice you deserve for being unjustily fired from there. Will follow anywhere, that is how great of a journalist and honest journalist you are. Keep being yourself and you will always have a fan in me. Love you faults and all.

Daivd
You have been proven wrong over and over again, you just do not want to admit it, you know that for the last five years that KO has never been a hack and never will be, I have to laugh that you are that igorant on who he is. Also David it will not matter if the trade happens or not, that does not mean Daivd that KO made this up, you will never get that speculation is not showing that the story is made up. Daivd you cannot have speculation if something is made up that is how BS your posts are. If you had commen sense and inteillgence which you do not, you would retract this and all your made up posts, KO has proven wrong wrong for the last five years and you know that KO has proven you wrong for the last fie years. Keep bsahing KO and showing that Daivd does not know what facts are. Daivd you cannot speculate if a story is made up that is how made up your posts. Sorry KO has never lied and never will, Keep showing how igorant you are about KO. You need to stop lying and admit the truth you have been proven wrong about KO for five years and you do not want to admit it.

Also David
KO is telling the truth and this is sorry a true story. You show that you do not know what honesty are, it does not matter if Arod is traded or if is not. If he not traded that still makes this a true story, you do not get what I seem to get and I am not a baseball fan that is that is Arod or anyone else can still be on the team and trades talks can still have happened. They can happen but they fell apart or like this one thier was talking but it did not become serious. So once again you put up a post that has no truth in it and also has no sense to it. Showing for the last five years you have never used your commen sense when you have read KO stories, it always and do not say different because I know like all the rest of your posts that is was made up that you just do not like what is being said so, you put your hears out to the truth and live in a fantasy world were you lie about journalist like KO and put up the most made up ridclous posts every.
This story is and always will be a true story Daivd and you need to apolotgize for lying.
Saying that you only believe it if traded is about the most stupidiest thing and most non-sense and ridclous thing I have every heard of. People can still Daivd be on the same teams they were on before, but talks can still have happened of them being traded. It called talks falling apart, it called talks like this one happening but nothing serious came of it. All your posts show that for the last five years you and your have always been wrong and always will be wrong about who KO is. You show that you live in a fantasy world were you think that people like KO who pratice real journalism are lying and do not say different because again I will always know that is a lie. You show it here, you show that you do not even know and do not lie because you have shown it that you have no idea what speculation is. I do not need to be a fan to look at your posts and see that you are a troll hack that has been and still is igorant about who KO is and showing people that KO is a real live journalist who cannot make stuff up, does not matter if Arod is still with Yankees David that still makes this story true. I do not again have to be a fan to tell you this, it called talks falling apart or not getting serious, that is how non-sense and made up your last post just like all the rest of them have been. Daivd you have shown again for the last five years that KO has been this generations Murrow and that he has been telling the truth and that you have never and will never know who he is, all you care about is lying about him and showing that you have no idea what facts are, what speculation is and what honesty is and what journalism is, and do not say different because that will be a lie. You cannot speculate Daivd if a story is made up because again if you have commen sense which you keep showing that you do not have, you know thier is no right and there is no wrong. You and always will owe does not matter if Arod is with yankees still makes the story true a apologize and always will. Thanks again for showing why KO can never make crap up and that you not KO are the hack who loves and has been lying about who KO is for five years. All you do is make me love and respect him more and show how great of journalist he is. Keep writing non-sense and ridclous posts that make no and never will make any sense. KO sorry you got unjustily fired at Current, keep being yourself and you will have a fan in me. Love you faults and all.

And, Heath Bell, the player LOLbermann “rumored” to be headed to NY in an A-Rod deal with Miami is now a Diamondback. Good call you hack, it only took 2 days for your lie to fall flat on its face!

Daivd
Once again Daivd you owe KO a huge apologiy for lying about who KO is and showing that me that once again KO in no hack and that he story her told was true. Daivd are this igorant they said that this happened in last April and that thier were talks, but they did not get serious, so Heath Bellman going to Arizona does not make the story untrue, it shows that thier were talks but they did not become serious, that is how BS and made up your posts are and always will be. You never get the concept that people like Heath and others could end up on other teams, but that does not mean that story was made that to people that unlike you for five years have lived with commen sense that talks were not serious or they broke down, and when that happened Marlins and the Diamnodbacks started to talk. You still owe KO a huge apology for making up the fact that this was made up . Daivd this was not and will never be made up, you show that you Daivd would not know what a trade talk looks like if it walked up and bit him. I have to laugh at how ridclous and made this like all the rest of your posts are. I love how you show that you have been igorant about who KO is for the last five years. David again how can anyone specluate if thier not been talks that is how made up your posts are This posts shows that KO has never been a hack and for the last five years Daivd has been lying and showing how igorant he is when it comes to KO, he shows right now how igorant he is when it comes to trade talk. Daivd you still owe KO and always willk owe KO a huge aplogy for lying about him, you have owed him a huge apology for lying about who he is for the last five years. Daivd I do not live in fantasy world I unlike you live in the real world, I know that heat being with the Diamondbacks still does not mean that this story was true, because unlike you who again lives in a fantasy world I know that talks with Yankee and Marlins can happen but they break down or they did not become serious, that is how ridclous and stupid this posts is and this posts shows that KO is no hack and that KO unlike Daivd has zero clue how to make crap up, thanks for showing that KO cannot make crap up and that Daivd has zero clue what an apology is and how to apologize for lying about who KO is. Daivd only people that have no commen sense and hate to think and love to lie about journalist like KO, put up posts that have no logic and sense in them. Daivd get your head out of the sand and learn that it means crap if heath is going to the Diamondbacks that still shows that story about Yankees and Marlins in a talk about trading him to Yankees and Marlins is and always will be true, that just shows me that talks broke down which Daivd has never heard of or that talks happened but they were not serious that is how ridclous like all your other posts are about KO. You again show Daivd that you have shown for the last five years to be igorant on who KO is, on what facts and commen sense is and what journalism and you need to do the right thing retract this BS and all your other BS posts about KO and apologze. Talks happened Daivd that has been proven to be true over and overe again, ESPN even knows talks happen but you think that they have also been lying for the last five years and Jon Heymen who also said talks happened, they were just like people unlike Daivd that leave in the real world call not becoming serious, but that they still happened and KO sorry Daivd did not as much as you wish it make this up. This like all your posts has no sense and logic and is beyond ridclous and shows how igorant you are when it comes trade talks. Again I do not have to be a fan of baseball to tell you that Heath going to Diamondbacks does not mean that talks happened because I unlike you know that talks of trade happen but do not become serious or that talks happen but breakdown, so no Daivd only people with no itellgence and love to lie about others and hate to think would believe this made up crap that you posted, people that think and use reason and use thier intelligence know that KO did not make this up and that this post you put up shows that KO did not make this up, you also do not get this happened last April, so yes talks happened they did not become serious or if they did they broke down and Marlins decided to go a trade Heath to the Diamondbacks instead that is how made up your post are. Do the right thing Daivd retract all your posts, apologize and you will always owe KO an apology for lying about who is, you been lying about him for five years now. SOrry KO is not and never will be a hack and this posts shows that Daivd has been the hack for the last five years and has been iogrant about who KO is, KO has again proven daivd wrong, just like he has for the last five years. Keep lying and showing that Daivd is igorant about facts, commen sense and journalism. Story still trure David, learn one player in story being traded to another team does not and never Daivd will mean that talks did not happen. Keep showing Daivd that for the last five years KO has never made up a story and never lied and that Daivd has lied about who KO and always will and never will apology for lying and putting ridclous posts. Daivd needs to come out and say that he has zero clue what trade is and how it happens and do not say different Daivd because I know like all your other posts are lies. YOur igorance on this subject is amazing. Daivd I was not born off a turnip truck this shows that you still owe KO an apology for lying about him espically for the last five years, this shows that KO and I do not listen to anyone that calls KO that because I know and always will and anyone else that have commen sense and thinks know that is a lie and never David will be true an apology for bashing him, becuase we know that still makes the story true. It true because thier are terms in trades David called talks not getting very serious and KO even admited that he did not know how serious they become, or that they broke down, we also know that Marlins can start talking to other teams, while still talking about the Yankees happens all the time. Do not say different Daivd because I will know that is a lie like all your other dishonest posts. Do you right thing retract this and all your made up posts and apologize to KO and tell the truth, Daivd hates KO and says that made up untrue crap that has been shown to be debunked like KO making crap up never happened, Occupy Daivd was a true movement, Iraq was a unjustifed war, Fox lies and has put out hate speech, thier is no Occupy rape, corrupt coprotion happens, that david is what KO has been calling out for five years all Daivd if it is true, and do not say different, that is how I know that you have been igorant on who KO is and always will be, just like I know that KO did not make up this story because I know speculation cannot happen if a story is made up, thier again David is no right or wrong answer in speculation. I know that a conversation happened in April, Heymen and ESPN have reported on that, I just know like KO that talks did not become very serious when it came to at least Heath or that they broke down, also I know that still does not mean that Marlins are not interstead in getting ARod just means that they will offer something else, that is how BS this post is.
Keep embarrassing yourself about lying about KO like you have for five years, only people like you who hate commen sense and to think, would say that debunk crap about KO making stuff up, I read about things David have all my life and I have known that what KO has talked about for the last five years have been real and right on. I hope you enjoy living in a corporate America where Koch brother rule and this country is only about profit and making the rich richer, aka what happened at Gilded Age, that is how important KO is and why he has to call this out, that is how made up your KO been making crap up. I know corporate courption is real. I know election fraud is real, and that voter fraud is fake and only another form of racism. I know that thier were talks about trading Arod to the Marlins and Heath to the Yankees, but they broke down like I was telling you before how talks go, or they did not become serious or that they were talking about trading Heath to Yankees if Diamondbacks feel through called having a back up, so I know that you still are lying about KO and showing that you have been igorant about him for the last five years, keep lying that is all this post is. I reall have to laugh with how igorant you are when it comes to trade talks and that one player going to another team does not mean talks happened, that is beyond ridclous that you think that only way a talk can happen is if a player is traded, as a historian that is just pathic because it is so false. That is how I know that this post is dishonest and shows that you still owe KO an apology for lying about who he is and admit that for the last five years you have been igorant about and still are igorant like you are about talks of trade are. You show again that KO has no idea how to make stuff up and that he is no hack and never will be. Daivd I would be dead and gone before I believed that lie, because I know that is and always will be a lie, just like all your other posts have been lies. David I will know until the day I die that you are lying hack that does not know that trade talks breakdown or do not become serious so one player that is invovled in the story still makes the story true, it just shows that used him incase the talk with Diamondbacks went bad or that talks did not become that serious like Heymen is said in his last post. Still makes the story true and still makes KO tenichal right because talks of trading did happen.
Keep showing how Daivd has been a hack for the last five years and that KO is and always will be this generations Murrow and that he has no idea how to make up stories, Daivd again you show that KO has been a real live journalist for the last five years and that for the last five years you do not know what real journalism is which is not a suprise because you do not know what talking trade and do not say different because that will be a lie. David I hope you enjoy people getting thier vote supressed because that is all and I only have to a history buff to know that is what voter Id is, that is how great of a journalist KO is. Keep making me love and repsect KO more and show why he will be arounf for years to come, you show again why I will always and KO will always be this generations Murrow. KO keep being yourself and showing Daivd that you have never made stuff up, keep showing that Daivd has been lying about you for the last five years and that David owes you a huge apology for the all the made ridclous posts that he put here. Daivd sorry but you have always been and you show here everyday with all your posts how wrong you been and how igorant you are on KO.
KO love you faults and all, as long as you are yourself you will always be perment on my ipod, ipda and life. I know this story is true and always will be, I know that one player going to another team still means that talks happened between Marlins and Yankees about trading Arod and Heath bell, they just were not serious or fell apart, or the Marlins were being smart and making sure that they had a back up if talks fell apart from trading Heath to the yankees, or to the Diamnodbacks. Happens all the time in real trade. I know that with learning about what trade is and how it goes wrong with being a historian, that is how I know that David still owes you an apology for putting up another dishonest ridclous post showing that Daivd is the hack and has been one for lying about you for five years. Love you faults and all.

For the record, I meant that Occupy would not have been the vicitims of rape because there would have been no movement because KO was first with the news show to report about him, and in David’s world that would have been a made up story, so Strautan and others like him who love to expolit rape would have nothing to talk about. That is how BS David your posts have been.
Sorry Occupy Rape never and will never have happened, Occupy was always the vicitm of rape, so I sincerly apologize for that. Also Daivd you have also shown yourself to be hypocrite, KO was at MSNBC for eight years and that was the second time before he quit the first time, so you cannot even get KO’s career right. So was for the years he at MSNBC the first time he was telling the truth or at the first years at MSNBC the second time, wow that is how of a hack you are. Also what are the Diamondbacks doing get Heath Bell for next year I thought that trading only happened after the season. So once again you show that KO never made up the story and that David owes KO a huge apology and Daivd has owned this aplogy for the last five or truth since KO went to MSNBC. I love how KO keeps showing why he this generations Murrow and why he will be around for years to come, and why he has no idea how to lie. Again KO sorry you got unjustily fired at Current and will be mad if you do not get the justice you deserve for being unjustily fired from there. Keep being yourelf and you will always have a fan in me, love you faults and all.

There is absolutely no fucking way you are a historian. You can’t even spell simple words that are taught to students in elementary schools. And I’m not just talking about a common mistake. You have misspelled the same easy words (common, ridiculous, igorant, non-sense), and used the same terrible grammer over and over. Sitting on your computer at home and naming yourself history isn’t how you become a historian. Going to college and getting a bachelor’s degree in history (like I did) is just one of the steps you have to take. Then you need to go to Graduate school, get a master’s degree, and actually go find a job within the history field, be it as a writer or in a museum. Then you can call yourself a historian. Stop insulting the field I want to work in.

Wow
Daivd
You again show that you are so igorant on how stuff works. Sorry but that is not what it takes to be a lover of history, that is pure BS and just as ridclous as all your other posts are. Sorry but I am a historian and sorry but not going to a university or having a bacholars or a master does not make you a historian, that is not how being a study of history works, I got a associate of history degree in college. You show Daivd that your mastery degree has never once helped you, you show that you would never know what commen sense if it bit you on the face. Going to college David does not mean that you are inteillgent, that just means that you got into college. Also Daivd being a historian has nothing to do with spelling that again shows me that you hate facts and that you do not and have never used your commen sense.
This like all your other posts show that you do not have commen sense and you do not think, so keep lying, I care crap about what degree you have, I have a assocaite of history degree and I study and love history,
Daivd that is what a historian is, a lover of history, you do not need to be able to spell or have a fancy master degree or even have a job in a history to love it and be a historian. All you have to have is a love of the subject, again you show how ridclous and show non-sense and made up your posts are. Only people that hate commen sense and do not think and live in your made up fantasy world would be believe this BS post. No wonder you cannot understand trade or KO or speculation, you cannot understand that you do not have to be educated at subject and have universtity certicate to be a historian or a expert in a field. Just like you do not have to spell to be a expert in that field. Keep showing why KO cannot make up crap and you cannot tell the truth.

To paraphrase “you do not have to be educated at subject to be a historian or a expert in the field.” That is the dumbest fucking thing I have ever heard. And how does being a historian have nothing to do with spelling? Have you ever met a historian? These people are meticulous. The amount of research, writing, reading, editing, reading, and re-editing historians do in order to get published is ridiculous. You have no clue about baseball, trades, history, or anything at all you stupid inbred and the fact that you are LOLbermann’s biggest fan tells me all I need to know about the intelligence (not inteillgent) of his fan base.

And if you’re going to break a legitimate trade rumor, which this isn’t in any way, it helps if one of the key pieces in the deal you break isn’t immediately traded the same f’ing week, before the month of October is even out. We still have 5 months til the new season starts! If the Marlins and Yankees actually discussed a trade that would give A-Rod to Miami with the Yankees eating most of his contract while ALSO taking on a lot of payroll in the form of Heath Bell, don’t you the the Marlins would wait even a week or two to see if they could flesh that deal out? I’m pretty sure taking on another team’s future Hall of Famer for free while also dumping the worst contract on your team would have been far, far preferable to what actually occurred. Miami is going to pay Arizona $8 million to take Heath Bell and their only return is a 22-year-old player, Yordy Cabrera, who hasn’t played above single-A ball, has never hit above .232 in a season, and will probably never be heard from in the Major Leagues. LOLbermann is a gutless hack and you are an idiot.

Wow Daivd
You just again showed that me that KO made nothing up and that you are major and always will be a major hypocrite. Who cares when Marlins and Diamondbacks strated talks, anyone with a brain which you do not use knows that what you wrote there does not make KO breaking story about the Marlind trading ARod not true. Also I have to laugh that you think that Arod being a Hall of Famer and what his contract was before somehow means that yankee would not trade him for any player. Daivd the Yankees are a corporation, the owners only care about profit and performance, if a player does not care crap if they are a Hall of Famer or not. IF he not performing they will trade him. You not KO are glutless hack and you not KO need to get in your thick skull, that KO did not and never will have as much as David would have liked that made it up. Daivd do not put BS posts and ridclous posts like this one. I have to laugh again with how ridclous your post is. I do not have Daivd to be a Yankee or a baseball fan to know what you wrote is beyond ridclous crap and shows that once again you know that KO told the truth and did not make this story up and that because Daivd is gutless hack who hates to admit when he wrong and hates to admit that he has been lying about and showing how igorant he on KO for the last five years, he again puts up and ridclous BS posts that makes to anyone else that thinks is beyond a ridclous stupid conclusion.
David the Yankees and any ballteam are corporations and like corporations they only care about profit, so if a player is not playing to making the Yankees win and get to World Series and help them win another World Series, than they will eat Arod’s millions to get a player who will. So the fact is, you put out the most stupidiest post and the most made up excuse so you do not have to do the right thing and admit that KO is a real live journalist and that you have been wrong and always have been wrong about who he is. All you show is that once again you have no idea how corporations work or for that matter how business work. I would be dead in the ground before I every believed that made up BS stupid excuse to why a true story which has been shown to be true over and over again. JOn Heymen has even said that Yankees would be more than willing to eat that contract because ARod is not playing tenure with the Yankees is in question after his alleged in-game shenanigans and continuing playoff struggles, but people close to the situation say the Yankees and Marlins so far had only a lighthearted exchange, and no serious trade discussions.

One person described the late-April conversation as a “joke” between rivals, and suggested there is nothing going on between the teams now. The teams were playing late in spring training to open new Marlins Park when the joking occurred. There’s no evidence of any real talk since then.

The conversation at the time went something like this, according to a person familiar with it.

Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria: “Alex is Mr. Miami. Maybe he should play for us.”

Yankees president Randy Levine: “You can have him.”

The banter was viewed as a joke, and there’s no evidence it has been re-visited since.

Keith Olbermann created a stir when he reported on MLB.com that the two teams have “held discussions” regarding A-Rod. While that is technically true, sources indicate there has not yet been an exchange of offers. Olbermann’s piece suggested the Yankees would either pay all or almost all of the $114 million remaining over five more years on Rodriguez’s deal, or possibly take back embattled reliever Heath Bell and pay a bit less.

The Yankees say there is no trade talk during the playoffs.

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However, it wouldn’t be a shocker if the Yankees at least tried to find a new home for A-Rod following an episode in which he was outted in the New York Post for trying to pick up two young ladies behind the dugout by sending a baseball to them with a note on it. This supposedly occurred during Game 1, after A-Rod had been pulled for a pinch hitter, the paper reported.

Both Yankees manager Joe Girardi and GM Brian Cashman declined comment on the alleged pick-up episode. But Rodriguez didn’t start in Game 3 against Tigers ace Justin Verlander even though A-Rod was 4 for 6 with two home runs against Verlander this year. He also didn’t appear to be even a pinch-hit candidate late.

It’s true A-Rod has been awful in the playoffs, especially against right-handers. But compared to his teammates, he’s no worse. He also hit two balls hard his last two times up in Game 1, a fact hitting coach Kevin Long mentioned prominently.

That was before “flirtgate” however.

It’s pretty clear the Yankees are fed up, or close to it. But several hurdles to any deal may prevent it:

–A-Rod has veto power over trades, and is believed to still love the attention he gets in New York. He laughed off this incident and he is almost impervious to it all now. Rodriguez, who mugged for the camera and mouthed “Hi mom,” during Game 3, has always fancied himself the big player on the big stage. “He will never leave New York,” one friend said;

–There is a limited number of teams A-Rod might even consider – and that’s if he would consider anyone else. Los Angeles, which has the money, might be one. While Miami is his hometown, Rodriguez wants to play for a World series contender, and they’d have to make some improvements to get there after their disastrous inaugural season in new Marlins Park.

–The money still could be an issue. It’s no given the Yankees would be willing to pay “all or close to all” of the $114 million to go, and at this point, with things souring in New York, other teams would certainly ask it. There is also the matter of a potential $30 million to go in home run “plateau” payments. Though of course, the Yankees are one team that can be flexible when it comes to cash. Also here That is especially true these days. Rodriguez has gone 12-for-75 in the playoffs the past three years (.160), while hitting zero home runs and notching 24 strikeouts. What good is a player if he doesn’t give you anything when it matters most?

Even if you are a struggling ball club, if you take A-Rod all you do is take time away from developing some youngsters and moving forward. Accepting ordinary is not the way you get ahead in this league.

What does the future hold for Alex Rodriguez?

A whole lot of mediocrity and disappointment, wherever he spends his last years on the field. David your conclusion is beyond BS and shows that you do not use commen sense neverless your brain when you think about things like this, all you care about is bashing KO and than when KO turns out to be right, be a gutless coward and not apologize and just make up more excuses like you are doing now. Daivd the Yankee’s are a coporation that got rid of a guy name Joe Torre who had been winning them World Series when he stopped doing that, this how much the Yankees do not care about ARod being a Hall of Famer contender, if not showing that he deserves that millions than they will trade him in a minute.
Again you show that you know as everyone else does that KO made up no rumor and you still want to be a gutless coward and gutless hack and will just make excuse after excuse.
Also Daivd it does not matter when trade talks started with the Diamondbacks and how much they paid Heath, I have to laugh that you in your made up fantasy world thinks that shows that this story is made up. Excuse me, that is as laughable and ridclous as all your other posts have been. Daivd you again show that you do not understand how trade works. Marlins being in talks with Diamondbacks does not mean that they were also in talks with Marlins. They were doing something that Daivd has never and will never wrape his brain around and that having a back up, if talks with another player went sour. Daivd do yourself a favor and stop making up BS excuses and retract your ridclous posts like this one, and do the right thing and apologize to KO for lying about what has been debunked and will always be debunked no matter how much you wish it. This story Daivd was not and never will be made up. The facts and always will be is that Yankees and the Marlins had conversations about trading ARod for Heath, they did it in April, it did not become serious, so than the Marlins went into talks with Heath with the Diamondbacks in October when that did not come about and he was sold than. That Daivd is what the facts are. You again are putting up a made up ridclous posts that has no facts in it, and once again shows that Daivd again has no idea what trade is and once again has been proven wrong about who KO is. David you and sorry the fact is that you owe KO a huge apology for lying about him and the fact that you continue to lie about him. I live Daivd in the real world and living in the real world I know that what you wrote is beyond stupid and beyond ridclous. No wonder you think that KO not a journalist, you do not know how busniess and coporations operate, which KO and anyone else that lives in the real world do. Corporations and business Daivd care crap about Arod being a hall of famer or how much they are paying him, if he does not preform they will be more than happy to eat that contract, because they think that Arod is not living up to his promise of helping the Yankee win games aka World Series, this Daivd is all that mangements on any team in sport cares about. Just like it what any coporation cares about. This what KO agrues all the time on his shows on MSNBC. Explaining to people like you that corporations only care about profit and they will do anything to make that profit, the same goes for the Yankees, so you just put up one of the most stupidiest posts and one of the most stupideist excuses of why you Daivd want to remain a gutless corward and not do the right thing and apologize to KO for bashing him once again and once again showing how igorant you are when it comes to who he is. You really prove David with every post why you not KO are gutless hack and that you David have been igorant about KO every since he been on MSNBC. Only people that live in fantasy worlds and never think or use thier commen sense when talking about stuff would believe that BS. You show that you have no idea how a business or a coporation operates. Maybe instead of being obessed with my spelling and gammer and being high mighty about your education, you should learn that corporations aka the yankees are all about profit, and they Daivd do not care about Hall of Fame, all the care about is winning World Series, so if Arod is not standing up to the amount that he worth they will sell him in a minute. So again heath being sold to the Diamondbacks does not and never will David mean that this story is not true. The story is and always David be true, nothing is going to change that. KO David is always going to be this generations Murrow as you keep proving with every post that put out, you need to man up and apologize to KO for lying about who he is and retract all these ridclous made up posts and keep showing that you hate to use your brain and that you hate to use commen sense and logic, thier is no logic in your posts, this one in being the most unlogically, ridclous, utter nonsense one of all. Daivd keep showing that you are gutless hack who hates to apologize when you have been proven wrong, you need to tell the truth KO has proven David wrong every since he been at MSNBC, KO proved David wrong here by breaking a true story that Daivd knows is true but just does not want to admit because he so cowardess and pathic. You really make me glad that we have real live journalist like Olbermann that are not afraid to tell the truth and have no idea how to lie and make crap up, unlike Daivd who has no idea how to tell the truth and who has no idea what facts and journalism is. David thanks for showing me that you are gutless hack who loves to show me that KO is the complete opposite of what you say he is and that you David are everything that he is. KO owes no apology David he told a truthful story like he always does, you owe KO the apology. Daivd only people that live in your made up world and do not use brains would put up BS like that, and show that they have been for five years like you say been igorant about who KO is. KO daivd has no idea who to make crap up and he shown here David why, you lie when you say different and nothing will change that. This post is just as stupid and made up and ridclous as every other post that you put up here, showing that you have been wrong about who and always will be wrong about who KO is and he always and will always prove you to wrong. You just make me love and respect him more Daivd and show why he will always be this generations Murrow. Daivd you are everything that you claim KO is and always will be. People that live in the real world know that KO does not make crap up and they know that this story is true and they know how stupid and made up your posts are and always will be. You really are pathic.

Wow you David just wrote the must dumbest quto that I have every heard in my life showing that you hate facts. Daivd again you show how little you know about historians. Daivd spell and history will and will always have nothing to do with each other. I have to laugh with how stupid this post is and that you think that spelling and history go togehter, daivd the only thing historians every have to mistuously on is the research. When it comes to spelling and grammer they have what people who live in the real world and not made up David’s world called editors, those people David are the ones that are helping with the spelling and grammer. Why is it David that every history book and every book you read in general have authors including historians thank thier editors for helping them when it comes to stuff like that. So Daivd what you just wrote is the most dummest thing that has every been written. Even historians and writers have bad grammer and spelling. Again Daivd I study history, you do not have to be famous even Daivd to be a historian, all you have to have is the love of the subject. So no spelling and history have no connection. YOu are showing that KO once again is this generations Murrow and that you love to write some of the most dummbiest BS posts I have every heard. Spelling and grammer have no importance in a subject you love. Even in writing a book,people who use editors and others to help with that. This how BS your agrument is. Keep showing how much of a gutless coward you are. I sorry a historian aka I am a lover of history, I do not have to have a job to be that, or a a degree from a major university, all I have to have is a love. All historians Daivd have to worry about is making sure that they research the subject which you keep showing that you never do, that is it. The spelling and grammer problems David they leave to thier editors. So you David have just put the most dumest statement that was everymade. The fact is David history and an interest in history makes you an historian, not your spelling and grammer, you seem to not understand the difference between a historian and a editor.

You really don’t understand English, comprehension, reading, corporations, baseball, history, historians, trades, logic, and no-trade clauses. Basically you’re the dumbest fucking person in America, otherwise known as the only person stupid enough to follow a hack like Keith LOLbermann.

Also sorry again for meant that he was the first to report about them, and because th movement did not exist there would have been no rape victims for Strautan and others like him to exploit. That is how made and ridclous David posts are and why KO again can never lie and make stuff up. KO again keep showing why you are this generations and always will be this generations Murrow, love you faults and all, as long as you are yourself you will always have a fan in me.

David
Only people that do not know what the term editor means, would think that was a dumb statement and would put up one of the most dumbest posts I have ever read. That is why I am not suprise that you once again embarrassed yourself showing that you have no idea what historian means. It means love of history, which I am. You are also igorant and always will be on what they are in charge of, it called researching, and getting the subject they are talking about right. You do not seem to do that and do not say different because that will be a lie. The people’s who careers belong with spelling and grammer are editors and english professors or teachers. Historians when they are writing do the resaerch and make sure that it accurate. Than they when they are done and written out what they want to talk about, have editors who do the grammer and spelling corrections. So again David people that live in the real world know that what you said like all your other posts are about as beyond ridclous and make no sense and have no logic and facts. I do not listen to people that do not know what a historian is and what a editor is. People like that show me that KO was tellling a truthful story and did not make anything up and that they cannot handle it, and do not say different because that will be another lie. Daivd for the last five years as you like to say as now you have owed and always will owe KO an apology, because they truth is and always will be and anything else that you say will be another lie, because your posts have shown over and over again how igorant and how wrong you have been. KO David and do not say different because that wll be anothe lie has proven you wrong over and over again and has shown you over and over again why he will always be remembered as this generations Murrow, and nothing that you say will change that. You only proven that KO cannot make stuff up, and that all you are about is non-sense unlogical unthinking posts that have been beyond ridclous. That have shown that you are everything that you claim KO is, and do not say different because that will be another lie. You are a gutless lying hack of a troll who loves to lie and bash and put up the most dumbest posts I have ever read.
Also do not say different because that will be another of your other piles of lies. Keep being a gutless coward hack David that is all you are and as long as you lie about who KO is and bash him by calling names and lying about who he is and what he does, and lie about real stories that get to will always be true like AROD one, Sorry David this story is true and if you say different you are lying and if you do not apologize to KO and retract all the ridclous made up excuses posts that you have been written. YOu know that all your posts have been lying and made up and have no facts in them, so do not lie about that either. Until than you David will be gutless lyiing hack troll that love to bash real jouranlist like KO who cannot lie and who cannot and never will and do not know how to make stuff up, and if you say different David it will just be a another lie and retract that you owe KO and again showing that you have always and will always be wrong about KO because you do not care about facts and truth and do not say different because that david will be just another lie. KO keep showing why you are this generations Murrow, sorry you got unjustily fired at Current and love how you told the truth about what happend with Marlins, the Yankees and Arod. I know that people sa different like David are lying and are showing just why you are this generations Murrow. As long as you are yourself you will always have a fan in me, because know one is prefect. Be yourself and you will always be perment on my Ipod,ipad and life. Love you faults and all. People like Daivd make me love and respect you more and more with thier showing of how you cannot lie and how great of a journalist you are. You will always have my trust,loyalty and respect. Again love you KO faults and all.

Daivd
I am not the must dumest person around that is a lie and you know it, also you know that you Daivd are the one that does not unerstand trade, logic, baseball, english and history and you hate it that I am telling the truth about what happened. Daivd I have to laugh that you think that a no-trade policy wold prevent the Yankees from selling or trading AROd, that Daivd is the most ridclouus and stupideist thing that I have every heard of. Sorry Daivd but keep showing that you do not understand trade, if the Yankee want to trade him Daivd they are going to find away, they will care crap about a no trade policy. Daivd KO had a stock in Current and he was was suppose to be part of mangement, but he got unjustily fired anyway, Daivd you again show that you not me are the one that does not know what logic means. So I have to laugh with how stupid your post is and how you show that you not me are the one that does not understand what logic is. Daivd when it comes to trade when a comapny wants to get rid of something they will be more than willing to go against anything to get rid of that person, so the no-trade means squat and does not have and anyone who unlike you understands logic and trade no that. People go around crap like that all the time. So sorry you Daivd once again show that I understand trade and you would not understand trade if it walked up and bit you. Daivd keep lying about KO, you know that the no trade means crap, anyone that understand trade unlike you Daivd knows that measn crap and this just shows that you David not me are one of the dumbest people on the planet and that you hate when someone shows that. The logic Daivd if AROd is not preforming it will matter crap that if there is and if there not is a no-trade they will find a way to trade him or at least try to trade him, David you show everyday why this story is true and that you Daivd just cannot understand that KO has never and will never make crap up, Daivd I kmow what no-trade means, but I know that means crap and is just another made up exucse from you because you Daivd are gutless coward who does not want to admit that KO did not make this up. Daivd you show that you are hypocrite, you say that this is speculation, Daivd you cannot have speculation if a story is not true because thier is no right and there is no wrong, so if you say that Daivd you have to say that you again are lying when you say that I do not understand logic, you cannot even understand that thier is no right or wrong anwser in speculating and that you cannot speculate Daivd on made up rumors, so wrong dude I unlike you understand what logic is, you would not know what logic just like you would not know what trade means if it bit you on the face. I have to laugh that you think that you get logic you cannot even understand what speculation is and that you can only speculate on stories that are true, so keep showing that Daivd is everything that you want me and KO to be. Also the fact that I have spelling and grammer problems does not mean I do not understand English. Daivd anyone in the real world know that thier is more to english than grammer and spelling. Also David you not me are the one that does not get history, you love to put made up crap like history and spelling go together, Daivd they do not and just like your made up crap that a story that is right on is made up, shows that you would rather lie and bash me than listen. Daivd having a interest in history, is what makes someone a historian, anyone that does not think like you do and loves show that they hate logic know that history and spelling do not go together, that Daivd was the most dumbest thing I have every heard in my life. You think that historians are editors, they are not. Also keep lying that I do not understand baseball, Daivd you are someone that thinks that baseball mangement is about keep players if they are hall of famers are honarying contracts, Daivd they are not, you do not have to be a baseball fan to know that all they are about is profit, here me David they are about profit, which means they care crap about non-trade clauses and how much they pay someone, if they cannot get a profit off someone than they trade. So sorry David again a non-trade clause does not make this story not true, it again just proves that this story is true and that Daivd will always owe KO a huge apology but Daivd is to gutless and to much of a coward to admit that the Yankees and the Marlins were having a talk about trading Arod. Daivd you show that a child knows more about trade and logic than you do.
Daivd I do not listen to someone when it comes to being smart that puts out the most deumbest statement in all of history, that history and spelling go hand in hand, that Daivd is not and never will be true, Daivd you know have to have a passion about something like I do and willing to learn and be become a expert to be historian, spelling and grammer Daivd have zip and always have zip to do with it, and the fact that you think that shows that you have no understanding of logic. You think that people can speculate when a story is made up, that Daivd is the most stupidiest and unlogical thing that I have every heard of in my life, and you want to say that I do not understand logic, give me a break. You do not want to see that corporations like Yankees care crap about no-trade clauses,if they want to trade a player they will, corporations are ruthless like that Daivd because they are all about profit and the bottom line that is why they are so dangerous, so sorry the fact you say that just shows more and more that this story is true and that Daivd is too cowardly to admit when he is wrong and so the right thing and retract him tweets and apologize to KO for lying about who he is and what he does, and admit that KO has unlike Daivd no idea how to make crap up. Daivd all your posts including this one once again show that you Daivd are everything that you claim that I am and that you hate to admit it. Daivd thanks show showing that you are one that is the dumbest person on the planet that would not know trade, you sure do not understand corporations and non-trade contracts because if you did you would see that those clauses means beans and that saying that shows that you know what every other thinking person does that the Yankees and the Marlins went and talked about trading Arod. So sorry Daivd you do not understand trade, also you do not get that baseball is espically mangement is like business so if you do not preform you go, does again not matter about non-trade clauses, so sorry putting out the non-trade thing Daivd is just another made up excuse by you, because you are such a gutless coward hack that does not want to admit that KO did not make this rumor up and admit that he has been wrong and been proven wrong about KO again and again and admit that is so igorant about who KO is and know you are ingorant about who I am, you are igorant when it comes to who a historian is. Daivd keep lying about KO and showing that you are everything that you claim he and me are. Daivd stop making BS excusese like non-trade clauses that mean crap and only show how true this story and rumor as like to call it is, because the non-trade is just that a made up excuse by a gutless coward that does not want to admit that KO told a truthful story, and shows that a child knows more about those subjects than David, neverless KO. Daivd you keep showing how igorant you are on KO, baseball, trade, english compensention and spelling, you do not even know the difference between a editor and a historian that is how dumb and ridclous your posts have been and have shown that you not me are being one of the dumbest persons around. Again all you show is why KO is this generations Murrow and that you are gultess hack who would not know what apologizing and honesty and logic are. You sure show that you do not know trade and for that matter corporate trade. I have to laugh with how stupid this post is, and that you think that a non-trade clause means that corporations will not trade, sorry but that just shows that I know what trade espically corporate trade and you would not know what trade and corporate trade means, all this posts shows is that Daivd making more excuses because cannot stand that KO did what he always does and that is tell the truth, He cannot stand that he has been wrong and igorant about who KO is, and what journalism is and does not want to admit it. Do the right thing Daivd retract all these BS dumb ridclous posts like this one, admit that you are igorant about who KO is and what he does and that KO is no and never was a hack and that you have been proven wrong time and time again about who KO is and what he stands for admit. Say you do not know what a historian is and what a editor is. That you do not know what corporate trade is and that non-trade clauses just show that KO is telling the truth, because they mean beans because Yankees are a corporation and like all corporations they are all about profits and if a player is not making them money they will get rid of him, they care crap about non-trade clauses, they will figure out a away to trade him, so sorry if Arod is here next spring that will make the story just as true Daivd as it is today, all it will mean is that Marlin talks were not and did not get serious enough to have a trade, that talks fell through, or that they could not find a team that wanted him. David thanks for showing that KO does not lie, I know that people that call others dumb like you just did to me and say that I know nothing that they know that story that they are talking about is true and that they know that they have been igorant aka KO who that person is and have been wrong about who that person is and do not want to admit it. You seem to love to show that you love to put up dumb tweets and show that you do not like to think and use logic before you type, if you did you would have not put up the most dumbest post ever about history and spelling and lied about what my post said, because anyone with a brain and uses it Daivd knows that history and spelling do not mix and never will. Only in David ‘s fantasy world is that true. Daivd you really show that you do not live in the real world, because this is another unlogically, dumbiest post that I have every read in my life. Daivd KO does not lie that has been proven true over and over again, you keep showing that you live a in a fantasy world when you say that KO does that, and you show that KO has proven you wrong over and over again,not suprising for someone and do not say different because that will be a lie who does not understand and shows over and over again that they do not understand corporate trade and that non-trade clauses are just another excuse because they do not want to apologize and retract posts and admit that they have been wrong about who KO is for five years, and that they do not want to admit that trade talks about Arod between the Yankees and the Marlins had happen. Sorry Daivd but you show that I know about trade, baseball, corporations, logic, english comprehension and history and that I have no idea just like KO has no idea how to be dumb, and that you do not know any of these subjects and just to cowardly and gutless to retract and apologize about all the lies and made up names that you have called KO and admit that he once again told the truth. Daivd keep showing why KO is this generations Murrow and how igorant you are when it comes to KO and how KO has no idea how to make crap up and lie and how he has proved you wrong over and over again. Only people that are thinking and live in a fantasy world would put up a stupid excuse and a stupid ridclous post like this one. KO keep being yourself and you will always have a fan in me, love you faults and all.Sorry again you got unjustily fired at Current. Sorry you have gutless cowards like Daivd who would rather put up the most dumbest, unlogically non-sense posts because they hate to admit that they are igorant about who you are, and that you have proven them wrong and will continue to do so. People like that just show why you will always be this generations Murrow and why you will around for years to come and make me love and respect you more.

David you also show that you do not know what english comprehenstion is, Comprehending is about understanding what you are reading, it has nothing to do with spelling and grammer, that is what called writing. Daivd you are the one that no understand of English comprehension because you keep showing that you never read the story. KO said that trade talks had happened between Yankees and marlins and Yankees. He said that one of the deals they were thinking of is trading the Heath Bell for Arod. He did not say that they had been serious to were a deal had been made, that is why Heath going to the Diamondbacks is crap, because the story had said that they did not know how serious it become, which to any person that uses thierr brains and logic know that the talks happened but nothing came out of it, or broke down. Also you say that this is all speculating, people with commen sense and know logic Daivd know that thier is no right or wrong answer to speculation and you cannot speculate on things that are made up. So you when you say that this is all speclation you are actually saying that this is a true story, which shows that KO cannot make stuff up and you are being a hypocrite when you say that he make stuff up, you are saying right in your posts by saying that this story is true, when you say that this is speculation, so you bascially admited that KO tells the truth and cannot make crap up. So you show to anyone with commen sense and with logic that you haev been proven wrong about KO over and over again, and that you are igorant about KO when you say different. Do not sa different David becaue that will be another lie and showing once more that KO cannot lie and that you cannot tell the truth. Keep showing that you are what a true gutless coward who will never do the right thing and that is apologizing to KO for lying about who is and admiting that he was telling the truth.
Also Daivd I know that people that talk about the reality of corporate courption and how dangerous they are, that they do not make stuff up and never will. You have put up the most unlogical espically the last one, and shown that you are the one that do not understand what logic commen sense are. You do not what english comprehension and what writing is and what editing and Hitory are. Compresion and spellin do not go together, that is writing, history and spelling do not go together that is editing. You really show why KO is this generations Murrow and why he will always be smater than you on baseball and unlike always tell the truth and be something that you have never heard of it called journalism. Keep bashing people and lying about who they are that is all you Daivd know how to do, and do not say different because that would be another lie. Keep making me love KO by showing how wrong you have always been on him but never wanting to admit it, just like you do not want to do the right thing and retract and apologize to KO for lying about who he is and admiting that he told something that you have no concept it called the truth.

If the yankees are trying to trade A-Rod who could afford to pick up the money that he is due? On the surface his contract is ridiculous, but when you factor in bonuses the list of teams that can take him on gets even shorter. If you take out National League teams that can’t DH him when his defensive skills decline the list is even shorter. Its interesting to see what the end of a big ten year deal looks like and could the same thing happen to Pujols in a few years?

I also love how when I read articles they show, that KO was telling the truth and that he cannot lie, and show how dumb of the excuse the no-trade contract clause is, the even give the oppostions that the yankee can do, like eating the 114 million which I keep happen, or have trade for a amount that is not bad, this is what was saidt won’t be easy to trade Rodriguez. He’s owed $114 million over the next five years, and has a no-trade clause in his contract. Still, the Yankees could pay the majority of his salary, or take on another bad contract, in order to send him packing. So as I say, it does not matter if it says a no-trade policy in a contract, if a corporation is not happy which the Yankee’s are with Arod performance than they will find ways to get out of contracts, that is how dumb the no trade in contracts is, and how when anyone says it shows me that KO was not making anything up and shows that are igorant on what corporate trade is neverless about who KO is and always will be. KO keep showing that you are this generations Murrow and that once again you spoke the truth that when you talk about the Yankee thinking about trading Arod and how the tried to trade them to the Marlins for Haeth Bell, but it did not become serious or was not very serious which again KO you said that you did not know how serious they were going to become or had become. KO again keep showing that you have no idea how to lie and that you will always be this generations Murrow, keep being yourself and you will always have a fan in me. Love you faults and all.

I have to apologize to the Sport;s Cornicle which I got the quto from this is what the article said in fullWell, last week, we witnessed something no one ever thought would happen. A sweep of epic proportion, and the possibility of the ending of a second dynasty. Major changes appear to be in store for the New York Yankees.

They are, and have been, considered the “titan” of Major League Baseball (on the field and off it). They have been the “Big Boy” on the block. But this past Thursday in Comerica Park, the Yankees’ season ended with an 8-1 thumping (drubbing, destruction, whatever you want to call it) to the Detroit Tigers in the American League Championship series.

Not only did New York fail to advance to the World Series, they were swept — marking the first time since 1980 (Kansas City Royals – ALCS, when it was still a best 3-out of-5) that they failed to win a game in a postseason series.

The Yankees’ high-priced batting order failed to live up to expectations in the playoffs. New York hit .188 in the postseason, which represents the lowest batting average for any team in history through at least seven postseason games.

While nearly the entire team struggled at the plate, Alex Rodriguez has taken the brunt of the criticism. With just three hits in 25 at-bats in the playoffs, the 14-time All-Star was benched in three games and pitch-hit for on multiple occasions. (Although it is easy to blame ARod, you cannot ignore that Nick Swisher, Curtis Granderson, Robinson Cano, Mark Texieria, et al., didn’t help matters in the least)

With manager Joe Girardi’s decision to sit Rodriguez in the most important games of the season, rumors have started that the Yankees are looking to trade the future Hall of Famer. Rodriguez has reiterated that he wants to return to New York, but the team seems to believe that he may have over-stayed his welcome in the Bronx.

It won’t be easy to trade Rodriguez. He’s owed $114 million over the next five years, and has a no-trade clause in his contract. Still, the Yankees could pay the majority of his salary, or take on another bad contract, in order to send him packing.

Here are the most likely trade destinations for A-Rod:

Miami Marlins

Rumors began circulating about Rodriguez being traded to Miami before New York was knocked out of the ALCS. Political commentator Keith Olbermann reported that the Yankees and Marlins had already discussed a deal that involved reliever Heath Bell (which will not happen with the three team deal that took place this past weekend with Arizona and Oakland).

Though Yankees general manager Brian Cashman denied the report, a trade with Miami could make sense for both clubs.

Rodriguez is from South Florida, and the Marlins might be one of the few teams where he would accept a trade. The Marlins perpetually have had trouble drawing fans, and they might be interested in obtaining another star to boost attendance.

Jose Reyes or Mark Buehrle could also be involved in a deal. The Marlins gave both players lucrative contracts in the offseason, expecting to compete for a title. Miami ended up in last place in the NL East and could be ready to sell off some of their most expensive assets.

Los Angeles Angels

Just as the Yankees had a disappointing finish to their season, the Angels fell short of expectations. After adding two high-priced free agents in the offseason, Los Angeles failed to reach the playoffs. The Angels could be looking to make a move to ensure the same thing doesn’t happen again in 2013.

Vernon Wells would likely be part of a potential deal. The outfielder has two years remaining on his contract, and will make almost as much money as Rodriguez in 2013 and 2014.

If the Yankees acquire Wells and his two-year, $42 million deal, they may not have to pay much of Rodriguez’s remaining deal. While Rodriguez’s struggles are recent, Wells has been unproductive for quite some time. In the last two seasons, Wells has batted .222.

Chicago Cubs

The Cubs have two of the biggest requirements for a team that might be willing to trade for Rodriguez: a big hole at third base, and a player with one of the worst contracts in baseball.

In 2012, Cubs third basemen were the worst in the league — combining for a .201 batting average, 50 runs scored and 184 total bases. Rookie Josh Vitters had trouble with major league pitching, and Ian Stewart struggled when healthy.

The Yankees could re-acquire Alfonso Soriano, after dealing him to Texas for Rodriguez in 2004. Soriano is set to earn $18 million over the next two seasons. While he had a bounce back year in 2012 with 32 home runs, Soriano remains highly overpaid. The outfielder hasn’t had an on-base percentage of over .322 since 2008.

Now, will I think this will happen. I don’t. Rodriguez has pretty much told everyone within earshot that he is coming back to right the wrongs of the past 3 seasons.

We have seen this before, and it would be foolish to ever count out ARod, but the law of averages have stated otherwise to aging stars in the past. It might be best for a clean break, and a new slate. Besides, does ARod really want to hear all this again and again next season from fans and pundits alike??? I guess we all shall find out this offseason.

So again KO you really do show why you are this generations Murrow and why you will be around for years to come. So I sincerly apologizer to Sports Cornicle that wrote that, you were the one that put out the opotions of how the Yankees get around the no trade policy, showing how BS of excuse it is, that they are always ways to get around for corporations like the Yankees when they want to deal with players that they think are not living up to wimming World Series. That is what Yankees are about is winning, and they will trade even hall of famers to do it. KO keep showing how much you know about baseball and what corporations are like, and why a no trade clause excuse just shows that person aka Daivd who said it knows that Yankee’s and Marlins were having talks about trading him, but it just did not become serious and so the Bell went to the Diamond backs, but trade talks happened, so again Daivd you will always owe KO a huge apology, if you do not apologize that just shows that you will always be gutless coward who just wants to lie about KO and who he is. Even the Sports Chornicle says that Arod can be traded, showing that you lie when you say you know about corporate trading, so keep lying and showing that KO is this generations Murrow and making me love him more and respect and trust him more that is all you know how to do. KO again keep being yourself and you will always be perment on my ipod,ipad and life. Love you faults and all.

Wow having re read what KO wrote, I cannot believe how accurate he got stuff, also it reminded me again how BS and how saying that Bell going to the Diamondbacks shows how igorant that Daivd and anyone else is when it comes to conprehension. KO says right on the piece that he source never gave any indication how serious talks had become, so basically again saying that thier were talks of a trade but they had not become serious, also the article shows also why non-trade is made up excuse and anyone using it shows that they never bothered to read the article in the first place. KO basically says what the Sports Chornicle and other sports sites have said about a trade of Arod when it comes to non-trade clause and how the Yankees can get around if they want too, and that is that they would eat the 114 million that they are paying him, so this is why anyone that saying thier is a no trade clause shows me that they did not bother to read the article and they will be lying when they say different, because they did not get that the source KO had basically showed how that no trade crap can be worked around. Again KO told and always got this story right, and if anyone says different from all the evidence and facts that I got they would be lying and showing that all they care about is bashing people, mostly bashing and showing how igorant they are on KO. You can speculate all you want, but the story and the facts will always be that Marlins and Yankees were in talks about trading Arod, they were not serious or did not get very serious were a trade happened but their were talks. KO again keep being yourself and showing how you can never lie. Love you faults and all.

I will already say this, Never put up that made up article by Joe Simplton,that guy shows that he has zero clue how corporations work. I will say that if you try David or anyone else that logic he using has alreasy shown to be absoulety ridclous, I have to laugh when I hear the stupid but he going into the Hall of Fame they would not trade because of past performance crap, it same BS total non-sense crap about non-trade clauses. I do not have to be a fan of the sport to tell this guy that Yankees mangement is a corporation and that they are all about profit, so they care zip about Arod’s past performance and the Bounds is beyond ridclous. Simpleton does not get wiith all the people that live in his fantasy world what even a person that lives in the real world does, if Arod is not performing he will get traded if need be, because for people like me and others aka Olbermann that live in the real world know this. I love seeing the stupidty of Simpleton and others that make this non-sense ridclous agrument it shows that KO was telling the truth and that people like Simpleton do not know what trade is and espically does not know what corporate trade is. Keep putting up non-sense posts that show that you Simpleton make zero sense and should never be listened too, learn what trade is espically corporate trade and than retract that BS ridclous agrument that only shows that KO knows more about baseball trading than you do. You just make me love and respect KO more and show why he this generations Murrow. That is the most stupidest agrument Simplton that I have every heard in my life, just shows that all you care about is embarassing yourself with your made up BS non-sense posts that make no sense. Just make me love and respect KO more and show why KO knows baseball and you do not.

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I’m a fan, Keith, but you hate seems visceral for the Yanks. You left out that A-Rod was a left over from Old Man Steinies hobby of collecting future HOF candidates. I was a conflicted as all Yanks fans were during the play offs. A-Rod wasn’t hitting and seemed fragile in his ineptness and indecisiveness at the plate. So what was Girardi to do? Keep him in a spot that Ibanez or someone else could have filled. If Girardi had done nothing, you and other piler’s on would have vilified (or congratulated) him. It is so easy to second guess!

I found it very interesting that Yankees President Randy Levine, formerly Rudy Giuliani’s top labor negotiator during his reign of error in the 1990s, went on Michael Kay’s ESPN New York call-in show the day after the Yankees werre swept ou by the Tigers. He confirmed that there had been converssations over A-Rod with Jeffrey Luria but they happened at the beginning of the year when the Yankees were in Miami to open their new stadium and they were “in jest.” First there was an outright denial, now they happened but not seriously. On Opening Day 2013, A-Fraud will be wearing a Marlins uniform. The trade will occur either at the Winter Meetings or just before spring training camps open. As for KO’s veracity and truthfulness, I refer you to the slander Bill-o the Despicable laid on the US Army. He claimed not once but twice that the US Army massacred unarmed German POWs at Malmedy during the Battle of the Bulge in December, 1944. The truth is that members of a German Waffen-SS division massacred close to 100 unarmed American POWs in a field near Malmedy, Gelgium in the first few days of the German Ardennes counter-offensive now referred to asthe Battle of the Bulge. When KO and others called him on this reprehensible lie, first Fox deleted the video from their website. Then O’Really claimed he meant that US soldiers shot German POWs after the actual massacre happened. This nonsense occured at the time the Abu Ghraib horrors came to light. As a veteran of over ten years active duty service in the US Army, precisely over ten years more than Bill-o, Limbaugh, Cheney and Mitt the Twit, I’m still waiting for O’Really’s full, complete and unconditional apology for his defamation of the integrity and honor of the United States Army. I’ll take KO’s word over anyone on the right who make it up as they go along and don’t care whose good reputation they trash..

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YOu got that one, KO has shown over and over again that he has no idea how to lie. Also KO you were awesome in your Larry King interview, I pissed that I cannot watch the second half because of the busy schedule I have on Tueday and not being home until eight pm. Hope I can get the recap somewhere. KO that interview just made me love you more and more, it showed why you will always be this generations Murrow. I cannot stand that you got abused at Current and will not be happy if you do not get the justice that you desrve for that one. KO I know that you will be around for years to come. KO keep being yourself and you will always be perment on my wall, ipod and ipad and life. You are the only one that will get me to watch television again. Keep being yourself and you have a lifetime fan in me. Always know that you are prefectionist, but that is what makes you great. Love you faults and all.

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