Dee Is For Dodgers And Other Notes

The Dodgers have enough to worry about, but the construction in which Rafael Furcal is healthy, Dee Gordon has the makings of a lighter-hitting Jose Reyes, and Jamey Carroll actually has trade value – and they send Gordon back to Albuquerque - is nuts…you trade Carroll before he turns back into a pumpkin, shift the willing Furcal to second and thus reduce some of the wear and tear on his body, and let Gordon run wild and free at the major league level. Anything else suggests the Dodgers are operating under a delusion bigger than any of Frank McCourt’s – that the team is competitive this year….

A lot of leeway has to be given to All-Star managers about selecting pitching staffs, especially members from their own team, but the only man I’ve ever met with a bigger head than my own, Bruce Bochy, swung and missed, twice. One could stretch a point and say Tim Lincecum deserved a trip to Phoenix based on his Cy Young yields and post-season work last year and goofy popularity, but it’s still stretching a point. But Ryan Vogelsong? Helluva story, but not an All-Star. Not even close. Desperate homerism, pathetic, embarrassing. He was an All-Star, and you guys sent him back to AAA in the spring?

Just amazing to see that my Derek Jeter Injury Conspiracy Theory has played out almost exactly as I had written it. As I compose this we are still a few hours away from seeing the line-ups for the last game of the Yankees’ series in Cleveland, but Joe Girardi had already set up Part 2 of the theory by saying Jeter might not play all the games against the Indians. The true test of the theory is if Jeter does not cross the 3,000 hit plateau at home against Tampa Bay, and suddenly has a relapse that takes him out of the team’s subsequent road trip after the All-Star Break.

It may be academic since they may not have any more save situations this year, but if Mark Melancon keeps giving up runs in carload lots, the next youngster to get an audition as Astros’ closer could easily be young David Carpenter. He’s the ex-catcher they got last year from St. Louis for Pedro Feliz. His scoreless streak and minor league domination is obviated a little bit by the fact that he did it in A-ball at ages 24 and 25, but there is some leeway given to the fact that he only moved to the mound full-time in 2009. His demeanor and the strength of his fastball and top breaking pitch seem to make him an ideal candidate, or, at minimum, a suitable set-up man.

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So many possible “snubs” this year, but in my biased opinion Tommy Hanson definitely deserves it over both Vogelsong and Lincecum. Here’s hoping he and/or Craig Kimbrel get a spot on the roster.

(Hanson + Jurrjens’s numbers are just as good if not slightly better than Halliday + Lee so far this season)

I recall your DJ Injury Conspiracy Theory. You were right on it seems. I wish I was more advanced in my baseball studies, as some of this is still Greek to me. I should have taken that instead of Latin! Ubi sub ubi. Roma in Italia est. You know? It is just me and this head of mine. Dee Gordon sounds like a racecar driver, Ryan Vogelsong a singer, and David Carpenter, a Biblical character. Now, Mark Melancon, I understand, since Louisiana is full of Melancons. I must study more than the layout of Wrigley Field and the history of the Yankees. You are truly an inspiration to baseball! Larry King is right about your writing ability. Amazing. I can’t even understand that comment up there…but I will keep trying! Thanks, Keith! There is a point at which one crosses over from understanding to prediction. Forthtelling is explaining it. It comes before foretelling…which is where you are now! Cool.

I have no problem with your critique of Boche’s loading of Giants pitchers. But, as a SF Giants fan, Vogelsong has been the most consistent and highest performing pitcher this season (albeit with less starts than Cain/Lincecum). So, he really did deserve to be picked from a pitching staff that has no doubt kept this light-hitting team in first place.

What about Jeter being voted a starter by the fans? You think he deserves it KO? If you win it all, you get to run the show. If you have the most fans, they get to see you play. It’s not exactly a new “thing”; why do we bitch about it every year? Blah blah blah, homefield advantage, blah. Good pitching beats good hitting. That’s the only advantage.

As a giants fan I think you have missed the mark on this one Keith. Vogelsong is a much better pic for the all-stars this year than either Timmy or Cain. as Kevin pointed out he is one of the main reasons the Giants are still contending in the National League West this year. As a fan I look forward to the days that Timmy or Cain pitches but I just don’t get the feeling when they pitch like I have in the past that the Gmen will get a win that day.

Here we go. Yankee fan dumps on Bochy for picking Ryan “helluva story” (your words) Vogelsong for All Star team. 1st: Never heard Yankee fans griping when Joe Torre brought half his squad to the game. 2d: Vogelsong is legit reason Giants are in first place. 3d: Bochy won the World Series. Can pick who he wants. Get over it.

Two former Yankees (other than Melancon) Ian Kennedy and Jeff Karstens deserve to be All-Stars as much as Vogelsong does. However, Keith has a history of picking on the Giants. It’s a photo finish as to what he has a bigger agenda about– the G-Men or G-ter (I mean, Jeter). By the way, Comcast Bay Area has the best contest ever– the winner is whichever Giants fan got pregnant the closest to the very minute (7:54 p.m.?) the Giants won the World Series. Nice … But back to the All-Star Game, I’m honestly surprised Keith isn’t using his bully pulpit to write about the potential boycott of the game in Arizona on account of the racist anti-Latino law. Unfortunately, Adrian Gonzalez decided not to be another Ali and backtracked. But I didn’t vote this year and I’m not watching. If my reason for boycotting weren’t the crazy AZ law, it would be Andrew McCutchen not making the team. Some loony sheriff may arrest half the players (with them furin-soundin’ names) on their way to the ballpark.

“But Ryan Vogelsong? Helluva story, but not an All-Star. Not even close. Desperate homerism, pathetic, embarrassing.”

Not even close? If he had 2/3 more IP he’d qualify for the ERA title and he’d be in second place in the NL. Seems pretty close to me.

“He was an All-Star, and you guys sent him back to AAA in the spring?”

FYI, Keith – the spring happens BEFORE the All-Star break. It’s always been this way. The All-Star game happens in July and spring is before July. You probably should have researched this fact before writing this blog.

Oh also, please keep crying…. your tears are DELICIOUS!!! MMMMMMMM!! YUMMY!

So your rhetoric class consisted of you teaching your students to name-call in order to persuade?

Keith – you’re one of my heroes (I have taught some of your Special Comments in my rhetoric class), but you are waaaaaaaaaaaay wrong about Vogelsong (Timmy, too, but that’s another story). The stats more than speak for themselves. Not only that, if Vogelsong is not pitching as he has in the first half, then the Giants are nowhere near first place – and that’s saying a lot in the NL West.

Look, being a Yankees fan has allowed for some privileges over the years. And I know you are more than down on the Giants. But Bochy could have put both Panda and Ross on the team, and it STILL wouldn’t make up for Torre’s past selections.

Keith….. a hero of the inane.

Alexi. Ogando.

I don’t see Wash stacking the team with Rangers, just sayin;.

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And what if you are exactly right about your so-called “Derek Jeter Injury Conspiracy Theory”? It’s not like it hurts the team to keep him out of the lineup: the Yankees were 14-4 in his absence. (Coincidentally, they are 1-3 since he returned.) If this were Jeter in his near prime I’d have a beef w/ the decision to keep him out of the lineup, if in fact your conspiracy theory were to be accurate. Regardless, let the Jeter lovers have their day in the Bronx, so that the Yankee captain can start planning his retirement.

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if you are exactly right about your so-called “Derek Jeter Injury Conspiracy Theory”? It’s not like it hurts the team to keep him out of the lineup

being a Yankees fan has allowed for some privileges over the years. And I know you are more than down on the Giants.

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If this were Jeter in his near prime I’d have a beef w/ the decision to keep him out of the lineup, if in fact your conspiracy theory were to be accurate. Regardless, let the Jeter lovers have their day in the Bronx, so that the Yankee captain can start planning his retirement.
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